[ASG14]

^ The SC new is $10,000AUD ($6,500USD) and the Manifold I THINK is somewhere north of $1,000AUD ($650USD). the ONLY way to get one is if you need a replacement for your TRD Aurion for some reason. TRD will not sell then otherwise, which sucks.

 

[02341360]

If you guys really think it's cheaper to convert a 1GR SC to fit, or make your own, have fun. I'll be in the background quietly laughing.....

I don't necessarily think it will be cheaper, it might be but I bet it will be way better to make your own. Its like TRD hypothetically having one turbo upgrade for the 3sgte, how is that going to suit everyone from a gt28 to a gt42?

Same applies here, why not pick the supercharger you actually want, fabricate it to fit in the best way for your goals and engine and ignore the extremely rare and expensive part. You wouldn't pay that much for a ct20b if there were only 10 of them in the world.

 

[Gouky]

I don't necessarily think it will be cheaper, it might be but I bet it will be way better to make your own. Its like TRD hypothetically having one turbo upgrade for the 3sgte, how is that going to suit everyone from a gt28 to a gt42?

Same applies here, why not pick the supercharger you actually want, fabricate it to fit in the best way for your goals and engine and ignore the extremely rare and expensive part. You wouldn't pay that much for a ct20b if there were only 10 of them in the world.

actualy, after a bit of research, an Whipple W100AX would be the cat's meow for this motor and run about 1900$. a W75AX might also work well for slightly cheaper.

 

[02341360]

actualy, after a bit of research, an Whipple W100AX would be the cat's meow for this motor and run about 1900$. a W75AX might also work well for slightly cheaper.

Ooooh yeah, I don't even know what that is but there you go. $7000 for a TRD which needs work to fit or $2000 instead for a perfect supercharger for your application and then if you spend $5000 fitting it your an idiot but you still break even with a better setup.

 

[Johnny G]

W140AX would be the best with 2.3ltr/rev displacement

 

[Conor]

If you guys really think it's cheaper to convert a 1GR SC to fit, or make your own, have fun. I'll be in the background quietly laughing.....

How do you figure that it wouldn't be cheaper to blow $3500 on a 4.0L 1GRFE TRD S/C rather than $6000+ for TRD Australia-only parts that we can't even order?

 

[DaveMush]

Cuz a 1gr will not mate to a transverse transmission... And a longituninal engine and trans would require MAJOR redesign of the car....

Just a thought....

 

[ASG14]

Um, 2 things.

1st off, It's an Eaton SC. They all get rebuilt by the same people. So it doesn't matter where it was made, or what it was made for. The only other 2 real parts are the manifold (comes with this one), and if you manage to destroy that, you have some other issues, and thent here is the single idler pulley, which is not with this unit. You can make one as it;s just a single bracket. If you can spend countless hours making a 1GR SC fit, making the idler pilley should be cake. And if you need anything from the older TRD SC kits, your SOL anyway. Thats why for stuff liek the pulleys, you have to get them from dayco, and the belts are dayco PolyCog 6 rib belts.

2nd, it' the new more efficient TVS Supercharger. The 1GR is the old style.

3rd, where are you guys getting $6k+ figure from? My friend was sellign this one for $3k, and then all you really need to make is the idler pulley. So read above for that.

4th, no matter which you go with, your goign to need some kind of piggyback. So the fact this one doesn't have it, is not even worth discussing. Same for the injectors.


But hey, I have no clue on what SuperChargers do or how they work. I mean, the fact that I have a TRD SC 1MZ-FE, have worked on 4 other camry's with the TRD SC, and installed one a couple months ago on my friends'94 Coupe, as well as help a friend install an M45 TRD SC on his Corolla, surely shows I'm clueless.

Additionally, if anyone wants pictures of the Eaton TVS SC on the 2GR engine, let me know, as a friend on mine in Australia took pictures of his friends TRD Aurion engine bay for me. And if needed, may be able to get specific pics if needed. Or I can just post them here if people want. Either/or, fine with me.

 

[Conor]

Chill pill, buddy! Nobody questioned how much you know about superchargers

For the record, I wouldn't bother with fitting a 1GR S/C to the 2GR anyway. Just like Gouky is brainstorming, there are way better choices for S/Cs than anything TRD/Eaton supply.

And I'm well aware of the requirements of custom forced induction.. But hey, it's not like I didn't install a 1MZFE into an MR2 or anything. This surely shows that I have no idea how engines/electronics work. Right?

Right.

3rd, where are you guys getting $6k+ figure from? My friend was sellign this one for $3k, and then all you really need to make is the idler pulley. So read above for that.

Is BoostedCamry your friend?

This kit MSRP's in Australia for over $7000us, and get this you have to be a TRD Aurien owner with a VIN # before they will even sell you a kit.

 

[ASG14]

^ Yes, he is. I actually bought both of my 1MZ SC's off him. 1 of which I sold off to my friend in Australia, haha. BoostedCamry had a 1MZ Auto Solara with a TRD SC putting down around 300whp

And yeah, the SC + Manifold is over $7k is gotten new, which you can't even get. But My friend was selling it for $3k or something, where is somewhere mentioned in here.

*Added just in case anyone wanted to see what it looks like in somethiong other then a press photo (engine cover removed)

 

[DaveMush]

A friend of mine in England, called up his friend in Germany to get one of his friend's phone numbers, to find out that that friend wasnt home and was vacationing in the U.S. and while he was over here, found out that someone he read about had a baby with a guy from Austrailia who's brother in-law had seen a picture of it in a magazine while he was sitting in a Starbuck's drinking a coffee that he spilled all over himself when he realized that he didnt know what he was reading and had to go to the bathroom to clean himself up and saw his neighbor at the counter buying a dainish and a cute girl in line behind him who's boyfriend had a car magazine in his hand with a picture of a Toyota that made him think about an aurion....


There are major differences between the two TRD S/C's.... Although anything can be done with enough money and research... I suggest placing an intake plentum from both engines side by side before assuming that you can "FIT" one on the other engine's block.
-The 1gr is single VVT-I on each bank, The 2GR is dual VVT-i each bank.
-The heads are totally different and have differently shaped intake runners. Possibly even spaced differently than eachother.
-The 1gr has a different displacement and compression ratio that may, or may not make the 1gr's S/C sized correctly for the 2gr...
-Both ecu's have Calibration updates for adding a TRD s/c... Using a 1gr ECU on a 2gr is out due to the quad-VVT set-up on the 2gr... so yes, a piggy back or ECM of some kind is necessary...
-All of the new TRD s/c's are sold separate from a fit-kit that has the car & engine specific injectors, mounting brackets, intercoolers, pulleys, belts, ect.... Making your own set-up would require building custom items above...


If you are capable of doing such a task, great! You've done your reading and should continue on. If all of this is new to you, go back to Starbucks and drink another $16 coffee and find someone to pay a ton of money to do it all for you.

 

[DaveMush]

And what wasnt said is how much money he put into that boosted 1mz to get to 300 Hp... Or how many engines he blew prior to that set-up. Or that he kept burning stock pistons with the S/C and eventually built a turbo 1mz. Or that he's owned many 1mz powered toyota's and spent a ton of money messing with them...

All many things that the average Joe doesnt have the capability, or the money to do so..

 

[ASG14]

Well, at least I will be honest, I think there may be 2 pulleys RIGHT next to eachother there. The flat and grooved one. I can always get more pics if needed (as well as a pic od the TRD belt diagram off the hood) if anyone wants.

 

[ASG14]

And what wasnt said is how much money he put into that boosted 1mz to get to 300 Hp... Or how many engines he blew prior to that set-up. Or that he kept burning stock pistons with the S/C and eventually built a turbo 1mz. Or that he's owned many 1mz powered toyota's and spent a ton of money messing with them...

All many things that the average Joe doesnt have the capability, or the money to do so..

Wha??? My friend has a '94 TRD SC 1MZ Camry with a 5-speed manual, on a stock engine, with about 270whp. He just now is replacing it with 200,000 miles on the engine.

So I really don;t understand what that has to do with the 2GR engine. The other guy asked me if I knew him, so I said yes and just gave a brief description.

 

[DaveMush]

I'm not doubting anything you said... It's more of a general statement.
We get far to many "newbies" to the V6 swap in an MR2 that ask the same questions over and over again. And have heard something from a friend that they "know" is true and possible. Yet they have "already read" the stickies and still cant find the redundant info. And most of these "newbies" want huge goals "on the cheap." Do it right the first time, and you'll have a better car that didn't blow a coolant line under the car on the highway cuz you failed to replace the 15 year old rubber hose near the steering rack when you had the gas tank out; all because it wasnt in your $700 swap budget.

I'm done... I just troll the forums behind the scenes... don't really know anything anyways...

Carry on. I'll keep to myself.

 

[Gouky]

well, since this thread has turned into somewhat of a crap storm, i'm going to explain myself. i think i somewhat caused it.

boostedcamry PM'd me a little less than two weeks ago, mentioned that he had one of these chargers and gave me a phone number. i was pretty excited about the thought, so i messaged him back asking for the price and his location, i also left him a message on his phone indicating the same questions and a number to call me back at. knowing this kit is worth about 5-7k USD i was hoping he'd be nearby so i could check it out.

a few days go by, no reply. when he finally replies he does not answer my questions but instead asks for my e-mail address to send pictures. i do so and within a day or two, i get some pictures. again no answer to the price and location.

after this, i do a bit of research and notice a few threads on the boards that make it look like boostedcamry may not be the quickest shipper. it looks like his deals eventually get resolved but there looks to be a bit of animosity over a few of his sales. at this point I've already decided to drop it anyways. his phone number resolves to Maine and i would not pay that kind of money to someone like that without picking up the item in person. he's already proved non responsive to my messages. reinforcing the behavior mentioned by other people at this point already.

at this point, I'm pretty sure he genuinely has the item because a scammer would be much quicker to reply to messages. and probably would not give a phone number out. but I'm definitely not interested in it anymore.

a few days later. i get PM's from two separate people alerting me of this thread's existence. so i figure what the hell, with skepticism i post my question on the price in the thread. i actually get an answer this time (note 11days had passed since i first asked the question)

at which point, i indicated that the price was too high for only 50% of the solution. perhaps this is a comment i should have kept to myself.

i then proceeded to brainstorm on a few other supercharger ideas in here. i did a bunch of part number comparisons between the 1GR and the 2GR and none of the mating surfaces used the exact same gaskets, but the lower intake manifold gasket looks like it may just be a revised part number, not an entirely new one. perhaps there's a hope there.

but in the end, the point i was trying to relay was that without the Aurion ECU, there is simply no point in spending this kind of money on a bolt on supercharger that is missing a bunch of pieces to just bolt it on.

Also, I will supercharge my motor and i will figure out how to tune the ECU. at the very latest i'll install it after the next summer's driving season. but if i can get something properly figured out, I'll definitely be installing it this winter. it'll also probably be a W100AX whipple charger. they have the highest efficiency of their entire line and a max inlet flow of 1120CFM. if we assume the unrealistic figure of 100% cylinder fill, that is enough for 26.5psi of boost at the stock 6500redline or 21psi at a modified 7500rpm redline.

anyways, sorry for crapping in the thread. i should have just started my own thread and i will when i undertake my S/C 2GR project.

I'd also like to note that had this thread been in a for-sale section instead of a tech section i would have kept my mouth shut on everything other than stating that i was passing on the sale since it was directed in my direction specifically.

 

[boostedcamry]

moderators lock this thread

Moderators lock this thread this is retarded. Gouky you say some pretty disrespectful things that you have no basis for. Good luck brainstorming and "building a kit" or retrofitting a 1gr charger lol.