yes. .there are several different s/c 4agze incarnations out there that you can swap in. the us spec 4agze makes 145hp, and the japanese s/c motor from the mr2 also makes close to that. the later japanese motors from the corolla make 165 or so, and come in the ae92 and 101 corollas. they will require a bit of wiring over the mr2 engines simple becase they came form a corolla, otherwise almost identical installation.

also the later corollas (ae101 and 111) use a slightly upgraded version of the non-s/c 4age that has valve timing on a 5valve/cyl head. rated at 160/165 hp, they are commonly referred to as a 20v silvertop or blacktop motor.

as far as honda motors go? (i'm not an expert, this is just what i've heard.) i believe the hondas mostly sit on the opposite side of then engine bay (take a look sometime) from most import motors, and the engine turns in the opposite direction. so bolting them to the mr2 tranny is out. you'd need a honda tranny made for a honda motor, and then some custom motor mounts and axles all the way around. and learn to be very good at wiring not impossible i'm sure..but i think its a pretty difficult swap, which is whay a lot of people don't use honda motors in other cars, or at least no one has one in an mr2 that i know of. then again..i'm also not sure if everything i've just stated applies to the k20 for sure either, seeing as its a RWD layout motor to start with. search the boards tho. people on here will know for sure.

 

thanks for the info on the 4agze

the honda motor yeah would be a huge swap, tranny and all. the k20's sit on the other side of the engine bay from the rest of the honda motors. but the exhaust and intake stuff is on the oposite sides of what we are normally use to. (exhaust out the back of motor when mounted in the car) that would be the hardest part i think. if i went honda route i would just buy a standalone for the motor and do a complete wire job. also if i went with this i would want the 6speed that comes with the motor in the rsx type s or the type r trans (lsd)

Yeah i have been searching. I will prolly drop in just a S/C motor from a MK1 for ~1200 bucks seems as though you can get just about everything when you do it with out any problems.

Just want something "stock" to make sure it will run forever so as long as the motor i swap in is stock, and makes ~170 hp i will be happy. So it will be worth my time to look into that corolla S/C motor.

Thanks again for your help, if any other info is out there lemme know. Till then i am still searchin and reading

 

hmm.. the first thing that came to my mind is would the shift linkage work correctly if you did that swap? when i did the auto to manual swap on my friends civic their shift linkage looks nothing like ours.

i'm curious as to whether the 165 hp corolla from japan shares the same trans as the mr2? i forgot what the differences are.. i heard they're actually pretty minor.. but the oil squirters in the block are a definite plus. i think the pulley on the crank is different.

if you're looking into more low end torque i'd say go for the SC motor.. if you like reving your car to hell.. go for the 20v. i heard the silver top isn't a bad setup if you wanted to go turbo.. supposed to have lower compression than the blacktop.. but the black top has the most advanced ignition system i think on the 4ag's.. so..
goodluck - jeff

 

btw if you want a 6speed trans i think the corolla has one right? there's a couple write-ups if you're interested. and if you really wanted lsd some of the clips from 2's come with them.. the g-limited ones or whatever.. i duno about the corolla tho..

 

yeah the ae101 comes with a six-speed tranny. I think the linkage needs to be reversed or somethign like that?

 

Actually, its the 1998-99 AE111 BZR that has the 6 speed box w/LSD option. Might have been in the BZG too. Its a rare find, so expect to pay extra for it. The shifter needs to be flipped. Info is around here somewhere. Do a search for it.

FYI, the AE101 only came with the C52 & C56 box

 

correction....if it came with a GZE then it comes with a E series trans. chances are its a E58

 

alrighty.. to clear up a lot that was said above real quick.
yes.. you can get a 6speed on the ae111 (96-98) corolla BZ-R's. it only comes with the 20v blacktop (the supercharged motor is gone by 96) and it would require swapping the shift linkage to the other side. but then again... so does any japanese corolla tranny; 16v, 20v or s/c. (for that matter even a US corolla tranny would require that.) the tranny uses the opposite side for the linkage because the motor is in the other end if the car.
as far as the s/c trannies go. they all have a e51 or e58 tranny. higher gear ratios all around than the c52 and c56's from the n/a motors. but then again, they require more work mounting them into a formerly non-s/c mr2. also your axles have to be swappe dfor the s/c axles.
now you can just stick a s/c motor in and bolt it up to your non-s/c, c-series tranny. its not made for the kind of torque the e-series are, but it should hold out ok for soem time, depending on the condition of it currently. this saves you the time of changing any mounting with the tranny or the axles, or even the shift linkage (if its your tranny from your mr2.)
and as far as ignition systems? the blacktop has the same distributor basically that the 16v and silvertops and us-s/c's all have. the only motors that have something different is the later model corolla s/c motors.. they have DLI ignitions.
again... you best resource is the search function on the board.. and lots of reading.

 

anybody wanna give me a free 6-speed?

 

me too!

 

alrighty.. to clear up a lot that was said above real quick.
yes.. you can get a 6speed on the ae111 (96-98) corolla BZ-R's. it only comes with the 20v blacktop (the supercharged motor is gone by 96) and it would require swapping the shift linkage to the other side. but then again... so does any japanese corolla tranny; 16v, 20v or s/c. (for that matter even a US corolla tranny would require that.) the tranny uses the opposite side for the linkage because the motor is in the other end if the car.
as far as the s/c trannies go. they all have a e51 or e58 tranny. higher gear ratios all around than the c52 and c56's from the n/a motors. but then again, they require more work mounting them into a formerly non-s/c mr2. also your axles have to be swappe dfor the s/c axles.
now you can just stick a s/c motor in and bolt it up to your non-s/c, c-series tranny. its not made for the kind of torque the e-series are, but it should hold out ok for soem time, depending on the condition of it currently. this saves you the time of changing any mounting with the tranny or the axles, or even the shift linkage (if its your tranny from your mr2.)
and as far as ignition systems? the blacktop has the same distributor basically that the 16v and silvertops and us-s/c's all have. the only motors that have something different is the later model corolla s/c motors.. they have DLI ignitions.
again... you best resource is the search function on the board.. and lots of reading.

thanks for the clearifications on that

yeah i have been searching and reading.
Thanks again for you help

tryin to decide what to do still. Might ditch my second project and sell this car and just get a third gen rx7 but thats a whole diff story..

 

hehe ..3rd gen seven? even bigger project.. never could like a car that the motors needs rebuilding after less than 100k...
good looking car tho..mazda knows how to make a car look good.

 

hehe ..3rd gen seven? even bigger project.. never could like a car that the motors needs rebuilding after less than 100k...
good looking car tho..mazda knows how to make a car look good.

LOL they can go over 100k just need to know how to take care of them... i have been reading on them for over a couple years.

Honestly they just take alot more work but they can run for a long time.

i know more about them then i do about mr2s lol

 

actually, i think all of the 4A's used in the JDM Corolla's are DLI instead of having a distributer like the MR2's (both JDM and US).

 

"actually, i think all of the 4A's used in the JDM Corolla's are DLI instead of having a distributer like the MR2's"

hmm... all of what 4a's? none of the 20v 4age's have DLI... trust me i know. and the small port 16's have a dizzy too. only some GZE's have DLI. pretty darn sure on that.

 

didn't have a way of checking the 16v N/As and i coulda sworn the 20v weren't dizzy, but club4ag had a thing that showed that the Corolla GZE's were all DLI and the MR2 GZE was a dizzy.