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Voltage regulator questions, already changed alternator...

1.3K views 7 replies 4 participants last post by  MR2Fast2Catch  
#1 ·
I got the three warning lights in the dash, and my car lost power and died last week. I charged the battery and ordered a new alternator which I put in this week. It drove fine for a day and then the warning lights returned and shortly after that the car lost engine power and died, as the voltage meter went down again.

My next guess woudl be the voltage regulator but I thought (and was told by the parts guy at toyota) that it was inside the alternator, even for the SC MR2's, and my car is an SC. So I got an alternator from autzone and thought it would fix it since I'd be repacing both parts but I guess not. I did some more extensive searching and found out that the voltage regulator is a small black box in the trunk below the black box for the cooling fan.

So the battery was charged last night for me to drive it back home, and I was just working on it. Checked the power cable which goes to the alternator and it is tight and looks good. Definitely getting power cause when I held the wrench up to it to tighten it, i bumped the exhaust manifold with the wrench it sparked and kind of welded itself stuck, so I had to disconnect the negative battery cable and then pull the wrench out of place (which was hot). That was stupid... I know I should've disconnected the negative cable before doing that...

So after that I tried disconnecting the voltage regulator in the trunk and tried to start the car. But then the car had not power as if the battery wasnt' hooked up. I plugged the voltage regulator back in and still now power. Battery cables are tight, I loosened, wiggled and tightened the negative cable and the voltage regulator plug again and still no power.

WTF?

Thanks for reading my post and helping out...
 
#2 ·
The regulator is mounted on the alternator and comes with the alternator on the NA cars, but I'm almost positive the regulator is completely separate on the SC. Disconnecting the regulator should have absolutely nothing to do with whether or not the car will start or run, although it should cause the three lights to go out (thats how I got my car through inspection). From that I have to assume you disconnected the wrong thing.
 
#3 ·
I wonder if I blew a circuit/fuse or something when the wrench arced the electricity from the alternator to the exhaust manifold. It sparked and then welded itself stuck for and I wasn't going to pull it off like that with my bare hands so I disconnected the negative battery cable and then pulled the wrench out from inbetween the alternator and the exh. manifold. It was pretty hot when I did that.

I figured that from either that or unplugging the regulator would've caused my car to lost all electric power. So could I have blown something when the wrench got stuck and sparked/arched electricity?

Does anyone know what I could check to check this?
 
#4 ·
Check voltage across the battery terminals with the car off (~12.5V) and with the car on (~14V). If it's lower or very weak with the car on, you're not charging.

Yes the voltage regulator is in the trunk. The BGB will likely have diagnostic procedures so you can ensure you've found your culprit before ordering new parts or sourcing used ones here.
 
#6 ·
I just checked all the fuses (from all 3 locations) with a test light and they all worked fine. What next? I know the battery is fine cause the mulitmeter says it still has 12.6 volts and I was using the test light on it. Plus I have my boost guage wired to the battery seperate from everything else and the backlight for that works still, while nothing else on the car is getting any power.
 
#7 ·
Sorry... I missed the "not power" and "now power" typos. So the car has no power after shorting out the wiring.

Check your fusible link right off the positive battery terminal. It's fried. This makes perfect sense since your other gauge that isn't running through that line off the positive still works.
 
#8 ·
WIWhite87 said:
Sorry... I missed the "not power" and "now power" typos. So the car has no power after shorting out the wiring.

Check your fusible link right off the positive battery terminal. It's fried. This makes perfect sense since your other gauge that isn't running through that line off the positive still works.
lol, now and not, I just can't spell the word 'no' can I...

Anyways, that's a problem. There is no fusible link on the beginning of the positive cable. I bought the car after it had several engine swaps, now it has a 4AGZE in it. The previoius owner did the swap and put the battery in the trunk. (why the trunk, I dunno). So I relocated it up front to balance the weight better, but never put a fusible link in.

I do remember people telling me to put a fuse in the positive cable when I relocated the battery but I argued that I knew other MR2 owners in the area who got by without using them fine. But now I know their purpose and I will pay the price.

What would go next if I don't have that fuse right off of the positive terminal? :(

thanks for the help.