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What Gen of 3s-gte engine Photos

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Hello, hope this is ok to post in this forum!

New to 3s-gte motors and have been searching, reading but not sure which Gen and year of motor, as looks custom or maybe not.

Looking for info on this motor 3s-gte that was swapped into a Gen 7 Celica at some point ( new purchase, no history)

-Custom mods going on in engine bay, bad and good hopefully?

-Things like lt has an 8 bolt exhaust manifold? ( reading you could tell gen year, if was was 7 bolt or 9 bolt? Correct? )

-There is no Toyota name valve cover ( Aftermarket? )

- Custom Down pipe, looks custom?

Any info on what is seen in pictures would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks

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Gen3 by the catch can
I've sneezed better welds than on that downpipe
Turbosmart boost control. Is the intercooler off to the drivers side? Maybe a water to air based on that extra coolant overflow bottle. unpictured if so.
Weird place to put a BOV
It looks to me to be a butcheed-up gen3 varient. Pretty rough mods that would cause for concern on the bits you cant see. Whats the rest of the car like??
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It is a 3S-GTE. Maybe a Gen 2/Gen 3 hybrid. Not all of them had a Toyota logo on the valve cover. Here is my Gen 2 valve cover on the top photo. Ignore the COP...that is an upgrade. Your valve cover looks like my Gen 3 with the raised cam area. It has a distributor with standard plug wires. My Gen4 is different with stock COP (2nd pic), oil filter is in a different spot, etc. That downpipe has some serious battle scars. The issue is that all the components on that engine look Gen2 with a Gen3 valve cover to me. It does not look to have EGR. If I had to guess, I say it is a late Gen2 motor (around 93-94) from Japan. My 91-92 cars are early Gen2 motors.

Early Gen 2
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Gen 4
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OK so longer list:
Toyota Gen3 3S-GTE
Turbosmart boost controller
Weird intercooler pipes, maybe off to a W2A or runs down into the Celica bumper?
There's a lot lot lot that I don't like seeing here. Lots of important parts are just hanging or look not-hooked-up. Does this engine run?
Misaligned throttle cable
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Are these mounted to anything?
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Emissions stuff bypassed (not such a big deal, charcoal canister, etc hookups)
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Catch can not mounted to anything? I think this gen is supposed to drain back to the block somewhere as well. Also factory bypass valve (BOV) just open-air instead of recirculating or filtered
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Exhaust manifold and turbo both missing heat shields
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Downpipe welds are weird and awful. Also is it touching the fan?
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Intake fixin' to fall out of the turbo at the coupler
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See this plate under my valve cover breather tube? That is an EGR block-off plate. Does your head have one? Is there even a hole? My JDM heads do not have a hole for an EGR.

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See this oil filter location? It is way different than a Gen2. Where is yours?
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There are 2 things to take away from my Gen2 block. 1. The oil cooler and filter go where that red tape on the block is placed. 2. When you talk about 7 bolt or 9 bolt, it is just the exhaust manifold. The head is drilled and tapped for either. In this pic, you can see a 7 bolt manifold with unused stud locations in the head.

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Jesus Christ.

Is there an IC on this car?
All of the welds look like garbage. Two BOVs?
Jesus Christ.

Is there an IC on this car?
All of the welds look like garbage. Two BOVs?
It looks like a disaster..indeed. The pipe routing looks like a side mounted IC. I didn't notice 2 BOVs? I noticed an OEM BPV vented to the atmosphere though. Looks way "highpoooorformance".
It looks like a disaster..indeed. The pipe routing looks like a side mounted IC. I didn't notice 2 BOVs? I noticed an OEM BPV vented to the atmosphere though. Looks way "highpoooorformance".
I think youre right, I saw the one by the throttle body and just mistook for aftermarket. That's my B, sorry.
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Ok ok, everyone 😊 thanks for the reply's so far.

Car does drive runs but does have an exhaust leak from down pipe and manifold , surprise, surprise ;)

I understand that the engine is hack job but that's why I'm here, ( swapped 3s-gte in an Gen 7 Celica vs swapped in Gen 6, etc... is different I think)

Would like to repair, make things better.

A couple more pictures

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Also, no block off plate for where smcbride said to look. Took picture.

Does this mean jdm head?

Thanks
Also, no block off plate for where smcbride said to look. Took picture.

Does this mean jdm head?

Thanks
Yes...I am not sure about Canada, but the US requires EGR. From the oil filter, it is a Gen3. Just looks so pieced together though.
Ok, plan was to clean up wiring, mount loose components etc.. fix oil leaks , distributor oring, oil cooler orings, dipstick o-ring.

Would parts from a gen 3 be OK to order from in your opinion?

Exhaust manifold gasket gen 3 also ?

Plan was to get manifold machined or sand down flat if needed and install new studs and figuire out new down pipe

Thanks
Ok, plan was to clean up wiring, mount loose components etc.. fix oil leaks , distributor oring, oil cooler orings, dipstick o-ring.

Would parts from a gen 3 be OK to order from in your opinion?

Exhaust manifold gasket gen 3 also ?

Plan was to get manifold machined or sand down flat if needed and install new studs and figuire out new down pipe

Thanks
Take off the intake and exhaust manifolds and take a picture. It sounds like that is your plan anyway. The intake ports on a Gen2 are different than a Gen3. The exhaust ports are lower (closer to the deck) on a Gen3 than a Gen2 as well. Unfortunately, I do not have a picture of all the heads side by side.

Here is a link to a youtube channel that I watch. You might get some of your answers here. They have a lot of 3S-GTE info.

Gen2 Intake ports are large and more rectangular.
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Sounds good, will update tomorrow.

Thanks
Took off exhaust manifold.

From google, this motor now looks to be a 1994-1999 JDM 3S-GTE 3rd gen. MR2

Lots of clean up and new seals etc...
Time to order parts!

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Took off exhaust manifold.

From google, this motor now looks to be a 1994-1999 JDM 3S-GTE 3rd gen. MR2

Lots of clean up and new seals etc...
Time to order parts!
I think that is a good conclusion. The gasket kits are different, so it is good that you figured it out.
It is definitely a GEN3 3SGTE. Just been really hacked up and messy unfortunately.
Poor thing. Those welds indicate how messy it is.
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