[integratomr2]

Hello

I was wondering if anyone had recommendations on shops doing HP builds for the 3sgte, other than ATS.


I am located in the southwest

Thanks!

 

[Andrew Martin]

Why not ATS?

 

[integratomr2]

Well... That was my first choice, but it is proving very difficult to communicate with anyone there. Makes me nervous to send my car to a place for 8 weeks when you can't talk to anyone or get any answers even before giving them money.

 

[RePete]

^ I agree.

Though I admire their man man Aaron, he's not good at following up. I find the first couple of emails are responded to right away w/ pertinent info But then the communication drops at their whim.

i.e.: A little over 2 months ago, I was actually trying to make a substantial down payment (deposit) - I had already agreed to the service and was asking a few important questions - and I never heard back. My last line to them was "So let me know."

Guess they're busy...

 

[Celica GTE]

Hello

I was wondering if anyone had recommendations on shops doing HP builds for the 3sgte, other than ATS.


I am located in the southwest

Thanks!

Their is also psiracing which is pretty good.

 

[integratomr2]

^ I agree.

Though I admire their man man Aaron, he's not good at following up. I find the first couple of emails are responded to right away w/ pertinent info But then the communication drops at their whim.

i.e.: A little over 2 months ago, I was actually trying to make a substantial down payment (deposit) - I had already agreed to the service and was asking a few important questions - and I never heard back. My last line to them was "So let me know."

Guess they're busy...

Busy was my guess too

 

[integratomr2]

Their is also psiracing which is pretty good.

Thank you

 

[Liisrandom]

^ I agree.

Though I admire their man man Aaron, he's not good at following up. I find the first couple of emails are responded to right away w/ pertinent info But then the communication drops at their whim.

i.e.: A little over 2 months ago, I was actually trying to make a substantial down payment (deposit) - I had already agreed to the service and was asking a few important questions - and I never heard back. My last line to them was "So let me know."

Guess they're busy...

I've been having a similar experience trying to get in with them. I've been getting sporadic emails since June 2021 and have been getting extremely discouraged about the possibility of getting work done at their shop any time soon...

 

[integratomr2]

Well. This is depressing

 

[mr2fastforu]

I have learned over the years the hard way to just do alot of research/trial n error and do it your self, even you dont know where to start. Trust me you will appreciate yourself and the car itself more when its done. Youtube helps alot!!!

Also alot of shops dont appreciate their customers, treat you like a nobody, take forever on the builds and charge a arm n a legs for something you dont even know what they did.

My guess is that your in Texas. What exactly do you want to do? Have you tried DD Performance? I tried to contact them once and nothing.

 

[integratomr2]

I am in AZ, I was going to have ATS do the 350whp build.

I have not tried DD

 

[RePete]

I have learned over the years the hard way to just do alot of research/trial n error and do it your self,...

While I think that's good advice for a great many things, unfortunately there's more than 1 reason for not doing it yourself:

• No place to work (condo or apartment)
• Renting a shop can be elusive or too expensive
• No decent tools and if so, no place to store them
• Some don't want to tinker, they just want to drive it
• No time (long work hours or increased family time)

Well. This is depressing

Yeah, it can suck big time. Have you tried putting a WTB of sorts on CL or local online pennysaver or something like that? I've found many good services that way, some can be absolute hidden gems.

 

[WinterRanger]

A previous post by “mr2fastforu” mentioned DD Performance Research, they are in Sealy, TX (about 60 miles west of Houston, along I-10. In the past, I visited their shop/residence when I lived nearby. The owner was passionate about MR2’s but had taken on a lot of other jobs, like many small shops, to pay the bills. Let’s face it, making a go of it while focusing on MR2’s only/primarily is a challenge.Check them out online (Facebook, yelp.com, etcetera) and consider calling/interviewing them. At least it’s an option and information. If you don’t like what you read or hear - check them off your list. Best wishes!

 

[mr2fastforu]

While I think that's good advice for a great many things, unfortunately there's more than 1 reason for not doing it yourself:

• No place to work (condo or apartment)
• Renting a shop can be elusive or too expensive
• No decent tools and if so, no place to store them
• Some don't want to tinker, they just want to drive it
• No time (long work hours or increased family time)

No offense but that all sounds like excuses to program yourself thats it ok not to do it yourself and relay on a shop that will probably take a months for something that can be done over the weekend. Imo about the some that just want to drive the car then they should just keep it stock.

 

[mr2fastforu]

I am in AZ, I was going to have ATS do the 350whp build.

I have not tried DD

What swap do you currently have?

 

[integratomr2]

Thank you.. I'm check out DD!

 

[integratomr2]

What swap do you currently have?

What swap? It's a factory 93 turbo car is that is what you're asking

 

[mr2fastforu]

What swap? It's a factory 93 turbo car is that is what you're asking

Nevermind i thought you had a different 3sgte engine like a 3rd or 4th gen which would be easier to make 350whp on stock intake manifold and ecu / just bigger turbo/water/meth and intake, 3inch downpipe and 3inch exhaust....The 2nd gen is very limited unless you do a bunch of stuff for 350whp....You would need intake filter, 3inch downpipe, 3inch exhaust, bigger intercooler, bigger turbo, and maybe a tune on e85 on a stand alone ecu with bigger injectors.

That 350whp kit from ats doesnt really mean your going to make 350whp. That all depends on the intake temps, humidity and your elevation.

If i where you and wanted that power without a aftermarket ecu id go with a gt28 or gt30 turbo kit, water meth kit, bigger intercooler, afr gauge (to make sure it stays below 12afrs. You will probably need a better clutch also.

If you want to spend more and make the power easier with less boost then get a bigger intake manifold ( i have a racer x trunk mount ) / e85 tune / standalone ecu ( i have a fueltech ecu with a custom harness in which was very easy to install thanks to the great instructions from fueltech. I also tuned it myself in which i had no tuning exp at all. Fueltech is very easy to tune and setup.

Here is my setup... gt35r turbo, doc race exhaust manifold, custom uppipe, racer x trunk mount, 2200cc injectors, racer x fuel rail, custom trunk mounted water to air intercooler, fueltech ecu with custom harness, fueltech ignitions coils, clutchmaster 500lbs clutch....Motor is bone stock only has arp head bolts....i have tuned the car up to 20psi and my guess is about 450whp.

 

[RePete]

No offense but that all sounds like excuses to program yourself thats it ok not to do it yourself and relay on a shop that will probably take a months for something that can be done over the weekend. Imo about the some that just want to drive the car then they should just keep it stock.

No offense taken.

They're not my reasons, those are the valid reasons members send me all the time when I ask them why they can't DIY. And I respect them for living regular lives which prioritizes them from repairing old cars.

 

[mr2fastforu]

No offense taken.

They're not my reasons, those are the valid reasons members send me all the time when I ask them why they can't DIY. And I respect them for living regular lives which prioritizes them from repairing old cars.

Yea your right and well if sending the car to a shop is the only choice then they really wont be able to enjoy driving the car ever cause its always going to be in the shop. Also i have seen alot they end up selling the car because from my exp over the years these cars need alot of attention, especially when you start to mod them or they are outside in the elements.

Think the last time i drove my 2 was over 3 months ago, but mine is really modded and no longer really a daily. Am ok with that cause i have other means of transport.