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I think I've decided to drop money on suspension before wheels and tires to avoid that disgusting wheel gap I'll have if I bought wheels first. My budget is $1100. Any suggestions? I want coilivers over the koni struts and eibach springs everyone recommends so I can dial in perfect fitment in the future, but Im not sure which ones exactly. I want to get the BC Racing 91-95 MR2 BR Type Coilovers priced at about $1000, but I've read posts saying that they blow out at like 20,000 miles... I thought coil overs lasted longer than stock suspension... I'm also looking at Tein 90-99 Flex Z coilover ($950), or maybe even the Tein Street Basis ($700) to save money as I only daily drive my car, here in Hawaii we have no auto cross or track.. Any suggestions or input is welcome.
 

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Do you know if its a plug and play install? Comes with all parts included and corner balanced etc?
They bolt in and should come with shorter front swaybar links. However they are just set at the same height. You can't corner balance a car without actually having the car tested. No car is the same even if it was built in the same place. I have never driven an SW20 that feels the same as the other ones I have driven.
 

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As lame as it is my set of godspeeds were fully adjustable with ride height for like 800 at the time. Plug and play set up and last like forever. Little harsh for the daily drive but great starter set. Get a cheaper set, get your wheels and tires but get good tires! Whatever you got leftover put towards new coil over budget and you can always sell the first set you got or keep them for emergencies. Getting coil overs warranty replacement is a time consuming ordeal
 

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As lame as it is my set of godspeeds were fully adjustable with ride height for like 800 at the time. Plug and play set up and last like forever. Little harsh for the daily drive but great starter set. Get a cheaper set, get your wheels and tires but get good tires! Whatever you got leftover put towards new coil over budget and you can always sell the first set you got or keep them for emergencies. Getting coil overs warranty replacement is a time consuming ordeal
so you recommend getting wheels and tires before the coil overs? That was my original plan but I had a friend who said I should get the coils first.
 

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No grab a cheaper set of coil overs first like Godspeed brand and then get wheels and tires. Getting decent rims and rubber before lowering it will cause fitment issues pretty much guaranteed. If you arnt taking it to the track and just driving on the street you don’t need a crazy expensive set of coils. After you get wheels and tires and they fit and look good on your cheaper “not bottom shelf lol” fully adjustable coil overs you probably won’t even want to spend more on better coil overs cuz you already got the look and feel you want. If they arnt stiff enough spend the money on upgrading your other suspension components and bushings.
 

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Cheap coilovers have a ton of cross talk (adjusting one thing adjusts something else too, sometimes more than what you're trying to adjust)

The dampers also might last a year or two.
 

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I have personally owned: H&R springs on stock shocks, Ohlins, D2 coilovers and KW V3's.
Cost definitely equals quality in my opinion.
Best ones for ride and car response are by far Ohlins and KW. But those are not cheap and I don't think Ohlins are even available anymore unless used.
 

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All those cheap coilovers will be ____ compared to the Koni sports and TRD/Eibach springs. Either save for some good coilovers (or build your own) or rock the strut/spring setup that's tried and true. All those cheap coilovers don't last, are overly harsh, and just not great. The shorter range Ohlins are really nice if you can find a set and they CAN be rebuilt but it's definitely not a cheap option by any means.

I'd only get suspension first if the wheel/tire combo requires it to fit. If not, I second the wheel/tires first.
 

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Don't buy K-Sports..springs are too stiff and the dampers don't do anything. The aftermarket support from the vendor who sold them to me was underwhelmingly bad.
 

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No grab a cheaper set of coil overs first like Godspeed brand and then get wheels and tires. Getting decent rims and rubber before lowering it will cause fitment issues pretty much guaranteed. If you arnt taking it to the track and just driving on the street you don’t need a crazy expensive set of coils. After you get wheels and tires and they fit and look good on your cheaper “not bottom shelf lol” fully adjustable coil overs you probably won’t even want to spend more on better coil overs cuz you already got the look and feel you want. If they arnt stiff enough spend the money on upgrading your other suspension components and bushings.
Cheap coilovers have a ton of cross talk (adjusting one thing adjusts something else too, sometimes more than what you're trying to adjust)

The dampers also might last a year or two.
Yea I plan on sticking with the bc racing as I would like them to last the cars lifetime if possible
 

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If you don’t know what wheel tire fitment you want that’s why I suggested getting a cheaper set. No coilover will last forever. And if you are never driving hard there’s no point in top price. Shocks/struts are a wear and tear item. That’s why even on certified preowned cars they arnt covered under warranty. If money is no issue get the best everything but you can run a cheaper set to see what kind of look and ride you want, be able to get the right tire/wheel look you want and then when the cheaper “not cheapest I can’t stress that enough” start to not do their job anymore or you got the cash to throw at a good set do it! But seriously getting performance suspension components and bushings are also very important!
 

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Tein Street Basis are pretty good for a street-only car. You can't slam the car with them though, probably 3/4-1" down from 93+ spring ride height max.

Tein Flex Z's are a little bit more aggressive on rates, and have adjustable damping. I liked the set I had for my S2000. They're both solid offerings for the price point.


IMO, BC Racing was an ok deal back when they were like $750-800ish, but now that they're north of $1100, I feel like they're just not worth that. For a street car, I'd say you'd be less impressed with them than Tein Street Basis, and they're almost double the cost. Don't even bother with some cheap crap like Godspeeds etc. - that's just throwing money away and they'll probably be trash in no time.


Hell, if you've got a bit of flexibility in your schedule, I'll sell you my Tein Street Basis for a good price.
 

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There are plenty of threads on wheel and tire fitment. Find out what setup you want and then go from there. In general, coilovers will require a slightly lower offset front wheel to clear the spring/spring perch as it no longer sits above the tire. A flush front fitment on a strut and spring setup is x8 +35 but coilovers may require x8 +30 or less.

Most coilovers I've seen suggest a rebuild at the 30k mark. If you want to go with coilovers, I'd suggest looking around for a shop who can do rebuilds for you locally or who has the quickest turnaround time. I'm considering Feal coilovers as they are fairly local to me.
 

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Tein Street Basis are pretty good for a street-only car. You can't slam the car with them though, probably 3/4-1" down from 93+ spring ride height max.

Tein Flex Z's are a little bit more aggressive on rates, and have adjustable damping. I liked the set I had for my S2000. They're both solid offerings for the price point.


IMO, BC Racing was an ok deal back when they were like $750-800ish, but now that they're north of $1100, I feel like they're just not worth that. For a street car, I'd say you'd be less impressed with them than Tein Street Basis, and they're almost double the cost. Don't even bother with some cheap crap like Godspeeds etc. - that's just throwing money away and they'll probably be trash in no time.


Hell, if you've got a bit of flexibility in your schedule, I'll sell you my Tein Street Basis for a good price.
For me I have a shop here in Hawaii who can get the for $995 shipped free which saves me the $100 shipping fee most sites charge.

Also Imight be interested, shoot me an email @ [email protected]
 

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If you don’t know what wheel tire fitment you want that’s why I suggested getting a cheaper set. No coilover will last forever. And if you are never driving hard there’s no point in top price. Shocks/struts are a wear and tear item. That’s why even on certified preowned cars they arnt covered under warranty. If money is no issue get the best everything but you can run a cheaper set to see what kind of look and ride you want, be able to get the right tire/wheel look you want and then when the cheaper “not cheapest I can’t stress that enough” start to not do their job anymore or you got the cash to throw at a good set do it! But seriously getting performance suspension components and bushings are also very important!
Thanks for the advice, can i get a link to some bushings upgrades if possible?
 

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...I've been in quite a few FA cars on the track, and I'm not sure I'd use the word "best" to describe them.
 
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