Boz said:
^ somethings are hard to believe. like the term, too good to be true. and yes, the
best mod you could ever give your car is imrpove the driver. noshoes hit 11.8 with ct20 and about 320whp.
Yes, noshoes is a very good driver.
Boz said:
why is it that LB can't do better than 11.0 with over 800whp...? all about the driver...
better example. J&H is 1 rank behind LB by about .1 sec. He also has almost half the whp...difference is, J&H hit 1.4 and jeff 1.5
In LB's defense, I must correct a few things. When he ran his 11.0 he only had dynod around 600RWHP. Also, by LB's trap speeds (Somewhere around mid 120s IIRC. Im not at home so I cant look at the video), he was only putting out about 450-500RWHP, and Fazio was putting out about 440RWHP, and due to his lightened car, he has about a 20+RWHP advantage over LB (If LBs car is full weight. Not sure about that though). So theoretically they were within about 50RWHP of eachother so I'd say that at most LBs car was capable of a high high 10, so not like he did all THAT bad. Also, the different between a 1.4 60' and 1.5 60' at the 11second level is really only about .1 seconds.
*quick edit* I typed this up before reading J&Hs post. Well at least I know I was pretty accurate lol.
Boz said:
somepeople spend big money on big dynos. other spend that same money on track time. i can garuntee you a lot of those people in the low 13sec page would improve their driving skills a little bit, especially their 60'. then a lot of them will move up to the 12 sec page. most are hitting 1.95-2.15. Generally, .1 off the 60' is usually about .2 off the 1/4.
That is true for most racers, although, once you get in the 11second range, the 60's effects kindof even out with the rest of the track, and each .1 off the 60' is really only about .1 off the E.T, all else being equal.
How the car "feels" driving around day to day is going to be completely dependant on your torque/horsepower.
boostd4, that is so completely true. If two cars are making 400RWHP, and one is using a TD06 and is making 400 ft/lbs of torque, but the other car is using a GT35R and is making 300 ft/lbs of torque, the GT35R car will be just as fast, but will be mch easier to drive (less wheelspin).
(maybe all the power is top end so no power for drag) .
franky, just to use you're post as an example. Where you're power is at, as long as you have at least ~2500 RPMs of "full" power, really has nothing to do with the ablility to run fast times. I have to repeatedly tell my Domestic-owning friends that their trucks (454SS) with 20,000 ft/lbs of torque and 200hp (well, 420 ft/lbs and 200hp at the crank, according to a G-Tech) still runs a 15 (according to a G-Tech) because it is HP that determines overall acceleration. Ryan Woon of the Supra comminuty was making about 1400RWHP and not hitting boost til about 6k RPMs, and he was still running low 9s at 160+MPH with 1.4-1.6 60's average.
*edit*
Also, Jeff, good find on those cars all trapping 112 but with different 60's. Way to show a point!