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Deciding between clip, gen 2 , or gen 3 ?

PRoblem:
I have a 91 turbo (160k) and the rod bearings went out which means i basically have to replace the lower block internals and etx.
Thus i rather buy another engine because everything is getting old (turbo, tranny, clutch, etx.)

Solution:
I have found someone that has 3 engines and a clip,
as well as a right side drive mr2.(reserved for a friend)



http://images7.fotki.com/v150/filehioY/be548/2/298233/1796112/forummr2.jpg
1st Option- Gen 3
pros:
- fast engine with less mileage than gen 2 motors from japan
- ct20b
- i can keep it stock and be happy with it after install
cons:
- parts are hard to come by
- not much support
- engine does not come with complete wires, but does come with ecu.
- unforeseen cost with installation and time
- more expensive

2nd option- Gen 2

pros:
- less expensive
- more support
- easier for me to swap since i already have a 91 turbo.
cons:
- not as powerful as Gen 3, but i plan to get the ct20b
- There are 2 gen2 motors, i think ill take the middle. The right one
has a spray painted valve cover and performance spark plugs,
thus the engine is most likely raced or ran harder.

3rd Option- Gen 2 clip
- i heard i do not need it because the usdm 91 turbo that i have should
have everything i need.
i just need another motor. Correct me if i need anything else for the swap.

http://images7.fotki.com/v151/fileGfE5/be548/2/298233/1796112/IMG_1768.jpg
4th option- buy the right side drive mr2...51k mile, pristine, 91 gen2 turbo but too late my friend is buyin it already. Mrtoo cool guy now.

http://images8.fotki.com/v153/fileM6IB/be548/2/298233/1796112/IMG_1760.jpg

It seems as though my decision will be to get the gen2 motor in my 2,

because of the swap should be easier in terms of wiring and i should not have

to go through the runaround with finding parts to complete installation if i did

the gen 3. Price of course is an issue but i will post prices after i get my mr2

up and running again. I just wanted to get confirmation from the forum if this

is a wise choice. What do you think?


http://images8.fotki.com/v137/fileMGzH/be548/2/298233/1796112/IMG_1771.jpg

more pix on ... http://public.fotki.com/mrV1et/mr2_motors_and_righ/
 

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I would go with the Gen2, thats what im going with. I origionally wanted a Gen3 but decided that an extra 20hp for nearly $1000 wasn't worth it... considering that with the money you would save you could almost buy a bunch of goodies for you Gen2 and make more power. IMO, Gen2, but if you wanna have a rare engine, Gen3.
 

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I would go with the GEn 2 as well. Its cheaper and can still meet your power goals. Im getting a GEn 2 as well I dont want to dish out close to 4g's for something that is not needed.
 

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You can get the gen2 and gen3 clips from jarcoinc.com, or Motors Unlimited. MU doesnt have a website, you must call Ron, the Toyota specialist there: 1-951-283-3778

Chicoraceworks.com also carries them as well as PA auto on the boards.

-Steven
 

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I went with the GEN II because it was less expensive to purchase which allowed me to buy a few more aftermarket performance parts....basically, there's no reason to compare the the GENII and GENIII after 300whp....
 

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Thanks fellas... then gen 2 it is. To answer joeo question, these are located in houston, texas.
 

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there's more to the gen3 than just a higher peak number, but I do agree that they're pretty overpriced.
I would personally go gen2 also, if I'm going to go through the hassle of a custom swap I'd rather go v6 than basically the same engine with some improvements.
 

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i need to fix the broken links, how do i host on we-todd-itracing.net (not sure) like everyone else?
 
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