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Another 2GR Swap Diary by an Amateur Mechanic - Mkydsm

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** I am not a professional mechanic, take any advice at your own risk **

This thread is intended not so much to be a guide, but another resource for anyone doing a similar swap looking for pitfalls that I will certainly fall into. It also serves as my own project record, and any future owner of the car would likely find it valuable. Please excuse any long gaps in posting updates, as we have a newborn and a two-year old, so I currently only have a few hours a week at night to work on this project.

As mentioned above, I am not a professional mechanic by any means but have always been somewhat mechanically inclined. This will actually be my first engine swap, and first time dealing with a number of automotive components (e.g. transmission/clutch, fuel system, etc.). Hopefully people can chime in as I go along with any advice or experience.

My goal with this car is to have a semi-track ready NA MR2 that I can take into the mountains on the weekends (CO). My prior weekend/project car was an S54 2001 BMW Z3 M Roadster. I ended up selling that car for a number of reasons, mostly due to the value as a collector car and the roadster was not eligible to join most events at our local track without a roll cage. The car did make me fall in love with high revving NA power, and here we are now.

There will be a number of posts right off the bat, as I am already halfway into the swap.

2GR Acquisition
MR2 Acquisition
Valve Covers & Painting
2GR Swap Goodies
3SGTE Removal Prep
3SGTE Removal
Engine Bay Prep for Paint
Engine Bay Paint
Fuel System
Keford Cams
Camshaft Removal

Current Status:



2GRFE from a wrecked 2016 Avalon with 25k miles:



The SW20 I acquired shortly after (yes, I know the racing stripes are horrible):
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Quite a comprehensive build, lots of pics of the process - I dig it.
As far as the brake lines and that bracket. I MAY have cut my bracket with a dremel with the line in it. The metal nut provides some safety, just take it slow and it's not that bad. Or maybe I didnt, I forget now. But I def cut those things because it sucks having to bleed the lines because you did suspension work
I might have to do that, definitely don't want to have to bleed the brakes every time I want to take off the struts.
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Project creep is setting in, which means the engine bay needs painting, every component needs to be replaced or refinished, and every nut/bolt should be replaced.

I realized that painting the engine bay requires removing the trunk and trim around the rear window/engine bay. Plus it makes it easier to do anything really. The rear trim has bolts in the interior behind the carpet. From what I have read, you do not want to remove the rear window unless you really have to. The old sealant may really be fused to the glass, and could break it in the process of prying it off. I'll just have to make sure I do some solid taping.




Then I basically removed every component, bolt, and grommet that I could. The only things left were the wiring harness, fuse box, heater core lines, and brake lines. Also, prepping the engine bay is an absolute time sucking nightmare. No matter how much degreaser I used, every time I wiped it down the towels were still coming up black. I have no idea what product those Youtubers use to make it rinse off in one pass. I tried every degreasing product at the auto parts store and Home Depot, but the it would basically just soften the top layer of grease or it would run into the crevices.

Anyways, after a million passes with degreasing, sanding, scuffing, degreasing, etc.; I finally got the bay pretty set for primer.



If anyone can tell me what those two holes in the lower frame are for, I am all ears. I don't think they are stock, and appear to be carbon fiber held in by oval trim pieces.




I chose not to sand the seam sealer completely flat after reading that it would compromise it's original purpose (sealing out moisture and maintaining chassis rigidity). I just ground down the excess goop that was obviously not doing anything.




Once it is warm with no rain in the forecast, I'll start laying down primer.

In the meantime, I painted all of the fuel/evap hard lines (and brake booster line), ordered what replacement hoses were still available from Toyota, and obtained Wilhelm's 2GR fuel kit with regulator.

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Now THAT is an awesome post, Im always excited, and jealous, to see people clean up their engine bay.
What color are you going with (maybe I missed/forgot from earlier)?
Yeah, do think about a dremel tool with a cut-off wheel, just take your time and you wont nick the brake line. Then I use some zipties to keep it 'secure' in the little groove .
Now THAT is an awesome post, Im always excited, and jealous, to see people clean up their engine bay.
What color are you going with (maybe I missed/forgot from earlier)?
Yeah, do think about a dremel tool with a cut-off wheel, just take your time and you wont nick the brake line. Then I use some zipties to keep it 'secure' in the little groove .
Not entirely sure on the color yet. Originally I thought black, but I also like the idea of using a lighter color to better identify any fluid leaks and have a contrasting background. Maybe some sort of gray.
If you have a steady hand and a dremel tool, you can cut through the middle of those brake line tabs without damaging the brake lines. I've done it.
Not entirely sure on the color yet. Originally I thought black, but I also like the idea of using a lighter color to better identify any fluid leaks and have a contrasting background. Maybe some sort of gray.
Good idea on being able to see fluid leaks, that said, hopefully that wouldnt happen anyway.
The positive with a flat or matte black would be that any shiny bits, or colored parts, would be highlighted against the dark background of the engine bay
I think the MR2 produces quite a bit of heat in its poorly ventilated engine space. Using Black in my opinion would further compound the problem
Those holes: They had to go into the subframe when the captive nuts for the cancer bars broke off. Captive nuts all over this chassis (including the rear cross-member) are something to watch out for. It's very common for them to break off. Using anti-seize compound can help to prevent this.
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Those holes: They had to go into the subframe when the captive nuts for the cancer bars broke off. Captive nuts all over this chassis (including the rear cross-member) are something to watch out for. It's very common for them to break off. Using anti-seize compound can help to prevent this.
Thanks, that makes complete sense now. Those bars were completely rusted, really the only component that was.
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Engine bay painting continued...

After more degreasing, making sure everything was scuffed and taped, I sprayed down a couple coats of Rustoleum filler primer. Once it cured, I sanded it down with #320. In hindsight, I should have spent more time on this step, laid down another coat of primer, and re-sanded EVERYTHING completely smooth. After letting my first few coats of paint cure, it was obvious that there were a number of rough/loose patches of primer left underneath, and at minimum all areas had some texture to it. I ended up having to spend a few days wet sanding the first coat of paint smooth again.

If you haven't already guessed, I have very little experience with painting and bodywork.




Much to my relief, the next few coats of paint went down smooth. Not completely perfect, but I would say it turned out ~80% of my expectations; which will have to be acceptable because I am never doing this again. Yes, I know canned spray paint will never yield the same results as a professional or even Harbor Freight paint gun.

I used Seymour EN-43 Hi-Tech Engine Spray Paint, in Ford Gray. I chose this enamel because it was heat resistant but supposedly does not contain the same ceramic as other paints which require baking to achieve a good finish. Also "disappointed" reviewers stated that it was not as glossy as they were expecting, which is exactly what I wanted. There are very few color options outside of black in "satin" finish. I initially wanted a darker gray, but again with off-the-shelf spray paints the options are limited. Overall I think I am happy with the color, it's similar to a "battleship gray." The car will also be sprayed a different color in the future, so no offense taken if you think it clashes with the red.



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Engine bay painting continued...

After more degreasing, making sure everything was scuffed and taped, I sprayed down a couple coats of Rustoleum filler primer. Once it cured, I sanded it down with #320. In hindsight, I should have spent more time on this step, laid down another coat of primer, and re-sanded EVERYTHING completely smooth. After letting my first few coats of paint cure, it was obvious that there were a number of rough/loose patches of primer left underneath, and at minimum all areas had some texture to it. I ended up having to spend a few days wet sanding the first coat of paint smooth again.

If you haven't already guessed, I have very little experience with painting and bodywork.





Much to my relief, the next few coats of paint went down smooth. Not completely perfect, but I would say it turned out ~80% of my expectations; which will have to be acceptable because I am never doing this again. Yes, I know canned spray paint will never yield the same results as a professional or even Harbor Freight paint gun.

I used Seymour EN-43 Hi-Tech Engine Spray Paint, in Ford Gray. I chose this enamel because it was heat resistant but supposedly does not contain the same ceramic as other paints which require baking to achieve a good finish. Also "disappointed" reviewers stated that it was not as glossy as they were expecting, which is exactly what I wanted. There are very few color options outside of black in "satin" finish. I initially wanted a darker gray, but again with off-the-shelf spray paints the options are limited. Overall I think I am happy with the color, it's similar to a "battleship gray." The car will also be sprayed a different color in the future, so no offense taken if you think it clashes with the red.



Dude, that color is great! Well done my man!




I think the MR2 produces quite a bit of heat in its poorly ventilated engine space. Using Black in my opinion would further compound the problem
Do you think that the black cars (factory) run hotter than other colors? At speed I dont think it'll matter. Actually, I dont think it'll matter much period. But Im happy to be proven wrong and learn something.
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For the fuel system, I bought the Wilhelm Raceworks kit with the -6 PTFE Return line and regulator. The Wilhelm kit provides the lines and fittings, except for one that the regulator comes with. I also bought an 1/8" NPT fuel pressure gauge that attaches to the regulator. To be honest, this is my first time really working on an automotive fuel system and it was a little intimating. All of the lines and pipes coming from the fuel tank area are confusing. I took some time to consult the repair manual, online parts diagrams, and laid everything out neatly until I had a pretty good understanding.

In summary, most of the hard lines are actually for the evaporative emissions system. Below is what the 2GR fuel system will consist of. The bottom line is the feed line from the pump/tank, the middle one is the return line, and the top is the feed to the fuel rail.





Cut the barb off the stock return line, "D" in the below diagram from the repair manual.



I used the smallest rotary cutter I could find at Homedepot, and it was still a tight fit with the fuel tank filler port in the way.



I had to smooth off the end after cutting it, then popped on the Wilhelm fitting.



I couldn't get the filter orientation right without unbolting the holder and turning the filter. Then connect the OEM feed line with new crush washers.



Before:



After:



I will probably leave the charcoal canister and associated lines off for now. If I do get any excess fuel smell, I can always install it later.
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Post deleted somehow - in summary I bought the Kelford EZP cams and tore the motor apart again.
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Here is a physical comparison between the stock LH exhaust CAM (top) and the Kelford 263-EZP (bottom):



Stock(left) versus Kelford (right)






The following is a brief summarization and practical application of me following the 2GRFE service manual, please do your own research before attempting. This is my first time working on internal engine components or timing, so any tips or practical expedients are welcome

Camshaft Removal:

• Remove any peripheral items (alternator, belt, brackets, etc.)
• Remove valve covers
• Remove Lower and Upper Oil Pans
• Remove Thermostat Housing
• Remove Timing Cover
• Remove Timing Gears
• Remove Bearing Caps
• Remove Camshafts
• Remove Camshaft cradle/housing

Remove the valve covers: I did this earlier when painting them, so this was breeze the second time around. Really it's just all of the bolts on the outside edge and one bolt in the middle of each cover. Just remember to remove and replace the three oil seals on each cover.

Remove the lower and upper oil pans. This must be done because the oil pickup is attached to the timing cover, as well as a stud protruding from the bottom of the cover into the upper oil pan. The hardest part is prying off the pans, a razer helps to cut the seal as you go. FYI - flip the engine over slowly while attached to a hoist or something, so it doesn't rapidly fall. Oil and coolant will come pouring out when you flip over the engine.




Remove all the components from the timing cover.

This includes:
• Thermostat Housing
• Idler Pulley
• Tensioner (several bolts from the side)
• Water pump pulley (I had to zip off with an impact gun)
• Crank Pulley (need a puller), set at TDC (0) before removing.
• Several bolts
Optional:
• Water pump
• The square timing chain tensioner cover.

Pry off timing cover:



Got sick of using plastic bags for bolt tracking, so took an idea from my son's matchbox car storage/tackle box.



Remove Timing Chain:

Set to crank to TDC. Also check the timing gear marks and align per manual (if they do not, turn the crank 360 degrees and check again). I then took a million pictures to make sure I had a solid reference when putting it back together.




To remove the chain, first remove the tensioner or follow the procedure in the manual. I could not get the tensioner lock to move, so I just removed it. Next, the manual instructs to turn the crankshaft 10 degrees counterclockwise. This loosens the chain, and you can slip it off the crank. To remove it from the cam gears, turn the B1 (RH) exhaust cam gear clockwise until it loosens. Slip off the chain and reset everything to TDC as shown above.

Remove the camshafts:

Stick a small pin into the cam gear chain tensioner, and remove the 17mm bolts while holding the camshaft with a wrench. Easier said than done, they are torqued to around 75ft lbs. I just kept the chain on the gears, one less thing to worry about later. Also remove the 12mm bolt and cam gear tensioner.



Ensure knock pins are aligned on cams, and then loosen the cam bearing caps in the order prescribed in the manual for each bank.

Bank 1 (RH):




Bank 2 (LH):



If you weren't tracking bolts before, now would be the time to do so. Reading ahead, when you replace the camshafts/housing, you only have a few minutes to do so while the new FIPG seal cures. Last thing I want to be doing is figuring out what bolt went where, or is missing.



We have camshafts!



Lastly, pry off the camshaft cradle from the heads with a taped flathead screwdriver. You are left with this, and the unpleasant realization that you have to scrap off the old FIPG without clogging the head with debris. EDIT: as merryfrankster pointed out, taking the cradles off is completely unnecessary unless you are replacing the springs. Sure it's a bit easier to reinstall the camshafts, but having to scrap off the FIPG and reseal is 10x more work.



Kelford's mocked up in the cradle:



Will post the install once I get both sides done and back in.
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Loving this thread, thanks for sharing. This will be a huge resource for my next swap which is a 2grfe
You can do this job leaving the timing cover in place, just loosen the timing chain, undo the caps, lift up the camshafts, holding the chain up so it does not drop. There is also no real reason to remove the cradles. This avoids a lot of disassembly. It is the method suggested by Toyota for changing the valve springs on the 2GR-FSE, which is done on-car as part of a TSB. There is a Toyota instructional video showing this floating around on youtube. You need to have your wits about you when you do this, but you also need to have your wits about you when you put the engine back together after a partial disassembly.
You can do this job leaving the timing cover in place, just loosen the timing chain, undo the caps, lift up the camshafts, holding the chain up so it does not drop. There is also no real reason to remove the cradles. This avoids a lot of disassembly. It is the method suggested by Toyota for changing the valve springs on the 2GR-FSE, which is done on-car as part of a TSB. There is a Toyota instructional video showing this floating around on youtube. You need to have your wits about you when you do this, but you also need to have your wits about you when you put the engine back together after a partial disassembly.
You are completely correct about the cradles, I edited my post. It might make it a little easier to orient the camshafts when removed, but it is 10x more work to scrap off and reseal the FIPG. Guess I was so hyper focused on being relentlessly thorough that I overlooked common sense.

Leaving the timing cover on in retrospect also seems feasible, although not having done this before it's hard to truly understand everything until you open it up. Again, scraping FIPG and resealing is the biggest PITA.

Anyways, I finally sourced another E153 after stupidly selling the original in hopes of Toyota delivering a new one. I'll be updating this thread shortly with finished cam install, timing cover replacement, trans modifications, and prep for final motor install. Having two under two (children) is no joke, taking a break from this project was a huge mistake and those little buggers drain you. Getting done by spring is my new goal.
I think the MR2 produces quite a bit of heat in its poorly ventilated engine space. Using Black in my opinion would further compound the problem
Engine bay is no worse ventilated than a front engine car, maybe better. Most front engine cars don't have exhaust vents out the top (engine lid), and are pre-warming the air entering the engine bay with the radiator.
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Quite a comprehensive build, lots of pics of the process - I dig it.
As far as the brake lines and that bracket. I MAY have cut my bracket with a dremel with the line in it. The metal nut provides some safety, just take it slow and it's not that bad. Or maybe I didnt, I forget now. But I def cut those things because it sucks having to bleed the lines because you did suspension work
FWIW: I split those strut brkts with a dremel as well. Then I secured the brake lines to the brackets with nuts, bolts, spacers and P-clips. I don't have pics, and my car was stolen....so..
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