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post #1 of 25 (permalink) Old August 20th, 2013, 09:16 Thread Starter
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SNAP oversteer! Acr.

My brother tested the mr2 on track for the first time. He got awd. So i think mr was a bit different from what he is used to.

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Mid engine rwd snap oversteer is somewhat common. That looks like a nice track. Whats it called?
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yes i know but my brother didnt
arctic circle raceway. one of northern europes best tracks.
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yes i know but my brother didnt
arctic circle raceway. one of northern europes best tracks.
Lol yeah true hes used to fwd.
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Awd he has alot of more speed in the drifts than i do.
But he is not used to the hard "recovery" from the mr2
Anyways. Veery fun
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federal something 235 on rear and 215 on front
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Warm up the tires before hammering the turns at least a lap. Set pressure low for room to heat up with street tires. Your stagger is prone to snap as well. Get more rear toe for wider tracks like that.
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Haha, easy to say, hard to do
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That was not snap over steer that was your brother going out on cold tires in a car he wasn't familiar with and spinning out because of getting on full throttle to soon and before the corner straightened out more. Its a simple lack of talent.

True snap over steer is when under corner compression (usually near limit) a bump causes the change is suspension geometry and causes the rear tire to toe out excessively and around you go.

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That was not snap over steer that was your brother going out on cold tires in a car he wasn't familiar with and spinning out because of getting on full throttle to soon and before the corner straightened out more. Its a simple lack of talent.

True snap over steer is when under corner compression (usually near limit) a bump causes the change is suspension geometry and causes the rear tire to toe out excessively and around you go.
Same thing as if you let off throttle mid corner and causes all force to go towards the front and the back end "snapping out"
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That also would be lack of talent.

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It's a feel thing. Generally mid engine cars come around faster, will not recover from as deep of a drift angle, and require less input to correct. The last one tends to be the kicker for a lot of people and got your brother. We didn't learn by staying out of the pool, so no harm, no foul. Thanks for sharing.
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lol...was that a volvo station wagon at 1:55?
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That also would be lack of talent.
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Ofc, he have never driven the car "hard" before and is used too 4wd.
And he didnt think of the heavy ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpQDteWfOU
This is me, and fyi the car was warm. Had some issues. Just testet and nothing serious time attack lap.
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You can hear he say "full gass", i dont think i have to translate it
Thats where he is used to floor it. So dont come with that lack of talent bs, i doubt any of us can get in a totally strange car and drive fast.
And spevially the mr2 that steps out hard.
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lol...was that a volvo station wagon at 1:55?
Ill tell you those volvos are mean drift machines! You can put any engine you want in them. And weight distrub(something, you understand) is 50-50 on the 240 wagon and 51-49 on the sedan.
And they are reliable, and light perfect travk car to have fun with.
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Ofc, he have never driven the car "hard" before and is used too 4wd.
And he didnt think of the heavy ass
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kpQDteWfOU
This is me, and fyi the car was warm. Had some issues. Just testet and nothing serious time attack lap.
And my lsd is dead
You can hear he say "full gass", i dont think i have to translate it
Thats where he is used to floor it. So dont come with that lack of talent bs, i doubt any of us can get in a totally strange car and drive fast.
And spevially the mr2 that steps out hard.
Looks like both of you have developed some bad habits: Early turn-in (cheating the turn-in), early apex, missed apex, not tracking out all the way, not unwinding or feeding power smoothly. Seems like your eyes are not far enough ahead as well.
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Good drivers definitely can get in a strange car and drive fast...

I find people who only drive FWD/AWD cars always spin my car the first time they drive it. Because they are so used to at corner entry they abruptly lift off the gas and turn in sharply. Also when the rear starts sliding they mash the gas. Both these things are the complete opposite of what you want to do in a MR car.
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Good drivers definitely can get in a strange car and drive fast...
Indeed.

It can be a very eye opening experience to go to an EVO school or similar, spend three runs posting your "best" time, and then have the instructor get in your car and without even trying beat your time by a second or two.


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