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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old August 18th, 2018, 10:00 Thread Starter
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What transmission best suits a 2gr?

There is the S54, the e153, there is also a 6 speed lsd transmission that comes in the 2zz powered 7th gen(I think) celica but I don't think that one fits.
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The S54 is probably going to be the cheapest unless you already have an e153. Word on the street is it can handle the power, as long as you don't launch it and have too much traction. Word on the street is also that one hard launch is all it takes to break one, but I don't know how true that is. Gearing is probably a little on the short side (a little shorter than the stock E153 even)

E153 is pretty much bullet proof. Personally I like the stock gearing for how I use the car, but a lot of people put a taller final drive in it, especially with the v6 swaps.

There is a 6spd option, but it's a lot of custom parts to make it work. The one from the Celica won't work I'm pretty sure, bell housing is completely different.


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the only 6 speed that would be worth the effort would be the EB60 or EB62 but it would be a heck of a lot of effort. Honestly for a MKII MR2, just use the E153 and pick your desired final drive. For the MKIII I have a set of parts to mount the EB6x in there.
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Woodsport has been promising a forthcoming SW20 fit kit for the EB60/62 for about five years now. They do have a small number of prototypes running around. A few months ago they took the somewhat significant step of taking names for a group buy for the mounting components. The group buy was filled within hours. This was to be followed by a second group buy, for the other required components. There is no estimate of when any of this work will be completed, or what it will cost.
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If someone does decide to go their own way with the EB6x I'm happy to supply the reverse detent cam i sell for the MKIII swap: https://frankensteinmotorworks.com/M...stalation..pdf this makes it so there is a reverse detent since the EB has the reverse lockout in the cabin normally.
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the only 6 speed that would be worth the effort would be the EB60 or EB62 but it would be a heck of a lot of effort. Honestly for a MKII MR2, just use the E153 and pick your desired final drive. For the MKIII I have a set of parts to mount the EB6x in there.
Do you sell e153 transmissions?
If not, do you know what cars they come stock on?
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E153s only came on MR2 turbos. but you can use any E series which came in a ton of cars and modify the center section to make it forward shift instead of rear shift. it isn't an easy modification but these days the E153s are getting a little thin on the ground.
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E153s only came on MR2 turbos. but you can use any E series which came in a ton of cars and modify the center section to make it forward shift instead of rear shift. it isn't an easy modification but these days the E153s are getting a little thin on the ground.
I have an e153 but it's in a fully functional MR2 turbo that I'm selling on Craigslist rn

So if I want the transmission, I basically have to wait for someone to k20 swap their mr2 lol
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Being completely new to the MR2 world I may be speaking out of place, but would a 5 speed from a Camry Solara not be a viable option as it came behind a V6 and might be able to handle the power better than a N/A 5 speed?
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That car has an E-series transmission, the only difference is the direction of the shift linkage which has to be corrected to use it in an MR2 application.
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E153s only came on MR2 turbos. but you can use any E series which came in a ton of cars and modify the center section to make it forward shift instead of rear shift. it isn't an easy modification but these days the E153s are getting a little thin on the ground.
Huh !? I thought Solara and Camry V6 manual trannies are E153. The difference comparing to the E153 on the MR2 is shifter arm linkages and final drive.
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Yes, the camry and solara received a transmission that got the E153 part number just like the MR2, but it has a different final drive which is actually an improvement for a v6 drivetrain but the shift rod comes out of the rear of the transmission like all the other e-series and requires machining to make it work in an MR2. It's a great trans to buy if you have a busted MR2 turbo E153 that you can scavenge the center case and shift stuff from. just remember to re-shim the diff and output shaft since the pre-load will likely change.
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I am using a E351 transmission from a Toyota Solara 3.0L V6 car. As Gouky stated, the shift linkage needs to be modified to make it work with the MR2. The modifications to my transmission was done by Tyler Orr (aka Sketchhs). I think the gear ratios are more suited for a V6 powered car. My MR2 V6 car is powered by a 2GR-FE engine.
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I am using a E351 transmission from a Toyota Solara 3.0L V6 car. As Gouky stated, the shift linkage needs to be modified to make it work with the MR2. The modifications to my transmission was done by Tyler Orr (aka Sketchhs). I think the gear ratios are more suited for a V6 powered car. My MR2 V6 car is powered by a 2GR-FE engine.
How much did you pay Tyler Orr to modify the shift linkage?
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So why not a standard Lotus Evora EA60 transmission it bolts to the RX350 motor 2010 on up. Handles 410 HP
it is a 0.64 6th gear and a 3.24 final this would work for me!
a brand new Evora transmissions or buy a complete car from a junk yard if one ever shows
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Question as trans is the same as Toyota’s Avensis diesel why can I not use that? We have them in Europe
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I typed a long thought out reply to this but it appears the forum ate it but let's start the other way around by starting with some questions. What's your motivation for wanting these transmissions? is it the 6 speeds or is it the super tall highway gear? if it's the highway gear, are you wanting that for fuel economy or land speed record stuff? or are you wanting to do this just because it's different? I completely understand doing it just to do it so you can say you did, that's a perfectly legitimate reason but I'm curious on the why.
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I want an around town car (1st to 4th gear) as no one here drives over 60
and highway 6th gear an getting to our Beach home is 300 Miles of flat road.
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If I could make fifth gear 0.63 that would work

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Leadge, I bought the transmission from Tyler Orr, so I don't know what he will charge for just modifying an E351 transmission to fit the MR2.

Note: The E351 transmission does not have a factory LSD (as far as I know). Quaife does have an aftermarket LSD unit for it. However, I have not experienced any traction problems (maybe the MR2's mid-engine layout helps with traction).

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Leadge, I bought the transmission from Tyler Orr, so I don't know what he will charge for just modifying an E351 transmission to fit the MR2.

Note: The E351 transmission does not have a factory LSD (as far as I know). Quaife does have an aftermarket LSD unit for it. However, I have not experienced any traction problems (maybe the MR2's mid-engine layout helps with traction).
Thanks dr. No, I'll look in to getting a e351
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