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I enjoy reading threads of subjects that are possible, something that is doable for the non-millionaire. Unless he is a millionaire, then Im subscribed!

Otherwise its a thread that serves no purpose in a otherwise respectable V8 sub-forum with MR2 owners that actually PERFORMED the swap. Not dreamers like this.
Good points. But...
If these dreamers don't dream it up then things always stay the same. When we first spoke about putting a V8 into a MR2, it and I were seriously poo-poo'ed by the membership here. Many of the extremely knowledgeable stated it could not be done at all.

Then one cold evening in November 2003 this happened...


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Yeah except that's a transverse engine going in a car meant for transverse engines ^^^. Using an engine/drivetrain out of transverse based car will make the swap easier, no matter v8, v10, v12.

Now if you could get a strong transaxle mated to that lfa engine, that would be great, but it's going to cost quite a bit, and you owning an mr2 most likely means you don't have anywhere close to that amount of money, for the engine, or the drivetrain.

If you have strong fabrication skills, the sky is the limit, you could mount an engine out of a longitudinal fwd based car, along with the transmission and axles. I believe some Audi's have that setup.
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Yeah except that's a transverse engine going in a car meant for transverse engines ^^^. Using an engine/drivetrain out of transverse based car will make the swap easier, no matter v8, v10, v12.

Now if you could get a strong transaxle mated to that lfa engine, that would be great, but it's going to cost quite a bit, and you owning an mr2 most likely means you don't have anywhere close to that amount of money, for the engine, or the drivetrain.

If you have strong fabrication skills, the sky is the limit, you could mount an engine out of a longitudinal fwd based car, along with the transmission and axles. I believe some Audi's have that setup.
If you're swapping in a LFA engine, the cost of the transaxle probably isn't too much of a concern.
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Anything is possible. If it doesn't physically fit, the body can be widened/enlarged to accommodate it. Imagine a wide-body mk1 by splitting the body in half and adding some sheet metal, custom windshield and rear glass, etc. Or the same but to lengthen the wheelbase. It can all be done. But for the amount of work, etc who would do it? I understand the V6 and V8 MR2s, etc because they used engines that probably cost at most $2000 (Not sure how much the Northstar V8 2nd hand cost but may not be much more than that, even less maybe) but a $90k engine? Like said, if you have the means, power to you but i doubt you do Plus rich folks are not playing with MR2s and if they are, they are playing with ultra low mileage, original condition (MINT) examples that they keep in their personal collection, etc.
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I mean... go to dubai. Find wrecked LFA, buy engine for pennies. Since most of them have ridiculous amounts of money, they would just buy another one and leave the old one for scrap.

Maybe...

Just a theory.
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any v engine over 350hp should run in a north south config. transverse just cant get rid of he heat that amount of power makes.

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any v engine over 350hp should run in a north south config. transverse just cant get rid of he heat that amount of power makes.

Is that strictly for NA or inter-cooled turbos as well?
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You're better off keeping the carbon fiber monocoque of the LFA. The MR2 can only dream of having a chassis with that much rigidity.

And 10 years of development.
And the sky's the limit R&D.
And pretty much everything else.
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I mean... go to dubai. Find wrecked LFA, buy engine for pennies. Since most of them have ridiculous amounts of money, they would just buy another one and leave the old one for scrap.

Maybe...

Just a theory.

The problem with that is Toyota is only leasing these cars out, and if someone were to wreck one, I have no doubt that Toyota would do everything in it's power to get it back, even if it's in a hundred pieces.
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The problem with that is Toyota is only leasing these cars out
only in America.
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The problem with that is Toyota is only leasing these cars out, and if someone were to wreck one, I have no doubt that Toyota would do everything in it's power to get it back, even if it's in a hundred pieces.
Hmmm that's interesting. Is that how all high end cars are? That's as ridiculous as the Ferrari's "You own, but we keep" Enzo FXX.

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I guess somebody thought it was ok to propose a viper motor, but that a thread suggesting a W16 was not appropriate. Odd. I would have thought that the next logical step after a Viper and LFA motor swap would be a Veyron...
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lol... that was me. but mainly because you were trying to make a point. and it is something that has already been discussed at length.

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Even if you do get a hold of the engine, the replacements part prices are probably going to be ridiculous; since there are no aftermarket parts available.
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for something remotely possible you can get a 1GZ and stretch the chassis
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So, not sure if you all noticed but the OP NEVER replied to any of this LOL. Where are you OP?
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I am pretty sure that the post was just a jab at the guy who wanted the viper motor in his MR2.
Bill, I suspected it was you that deleted that post, but thought it might have been to protect your next project from being revealed early!
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I want to see a clean, like-factory looking MR2 MK1 huge engine swap. All I've seen look grosly unfinished. In track cars it doeskin matter but most peeps want to swap their DD car.
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Do you consider a 1uz big enough? AEK74 had a pretty clean car, though I think he just keeps tinkering. This may be the issue. People who do these swaps are tinkerers. It is similar to the people with 500+hp turbo cars and that they are often torn apart, not always because the cars break, but because the owners are always dreaming up new projects.
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