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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old June 8th, 2013, 12:54 Thread Starter
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Has anyone seen pics of the new Corolla? the might just be hope for another MR2.
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http://www.marketwatch.com/story/toy...act-2013-06-08
Seems a bit like the Ford Focus (which I like and own) but still not so unique...
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Where, in any of that article, did you get the thought that there might be another MR2? That their sales are sliding? I'm fairly confident that the FRS is the closest that we'll get to another sporty car from Toyota.
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I think he is basing this on other articles where Toyota indicates a desire to have another sporty car priced under the FRS and one over it.
People have taken that to mean an MR2 and a Supra.
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I just can't see them trying the MR2 again. Even if they did, I think it would be a flop because of them not aiming at any specific demographic. Plus it's hard to beat a sporty car for under $25k. Now if they went balls to the wall and tried to get in on the pony wars of the big 3...that would be awesome.
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They could make a car similar to the aw11 for less than $25k. It would have to have an engine borrowed from another light low budget car (corolla 1.8) and a 5 spd with no hybrid. Minimal features, decent handling stripped could sell for $19xxx. That would be very much like the mk1a in 1985.
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Only way I see toyota making another MR2 is something closer to the 50-60k mark. It's not cheap to make a mid engine sports car and definitely isn't something I think Toyota will be keen to do again at cheap levels.
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@Svx92. Mid engine cars are expensive because they use exotic materials, low production quantities (both parts and cars), and because most are designed for the super-performance category. The beauty of the MR2 is that it uses components common to other Toyota cars. In particular the front engine, FWD configuration needs only to be moved across the back wheels. Applying the same philosophy it would be possible to construct a modern day MR2 for around $25K without much of a struggle.

Message to Toyota. I want a car around 2000lbs with no power steering, mid-engine design, at least 240hp, a hard top, no abs, minimum airbags, no traction control, minimalistic interior, decent racing suspension set-up and the storage of the original Gen 1 MR2.

And no, I don't want a sad, pathetic FR-S in my driveway. It has two useless back seats, an anemic engine, instantly forgettable body shape, too much electronics, too much plastic and a motor between me and the road ahead. God may forgive you Toyota for the FR-S, but I can't.

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And Subaru badges on the metal under the hood, and underhood pieces that don't quite color-match, and rims that look uninspired, and, and, and...

I want them to bring out a $20,000, 2.0L, 200hp, 2,ooolb hard top with a CD player (with aux in). This is the GT-S. Everything else should be an optional extra with a high-trim package that discounts all the options.
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The rims on that '14 Corolla are exactly like the rims on my '13 Taurus SHO... minus the SHO lettering... and I'm sure they're a different size.
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And Subaru badges on the metal under the hood
an MR2 requires Yamaha badges on the engine
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an MR2 requires Yamaha badges on the engine
This is why I ride an 82 Yamaha Maxim 750 motorcycle
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Whats with all these new cars using silver rims with black background, it looks awful IMHO ...
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If you make the original MR2 with modern materials, better suspension and superior manufacturing techniques you would have a car that stood out and would be both fun and practical. I hated the Mk3 because it had no storage even though the motor and suspension were superior. The Mk3 also had the worst paddle shifter transmission of ANY paddle shifter I have ever driven - truly remarkably bad.

The Mk2 was just a bloated, blob shaped version of the Mk1 with more power, vague handling (stock) and a shape that made it look barely discernible as a mid-engine car. Very blah.

What the Mk1 DOES need is a decent engine. 300hp would be about right. And a price tag around $22,000 would be nice.
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Only way I see toyota making another MR2 is something closer to the 50-60k mark. It's not cheap to make a mid engine sports car and definitely isn't something I think Toyota will be keen to do again at cheap levels.
The 2009 Saturn Sky Redline MSRPd for $30,475 and had tons of features. It was a front-engine ride, but one could easily visualize a midengine in it. $30k today isn't much more strain on the budget than $16,500 for the Mk1SC was 25 years ago. And the Redline is a whole lotta fun for the money. You can pick one up now for well below $20k.

It's not really as apples/oranges comparison as it sounds. The problem isn't so much that it's hard to stick the engine behind the driver and still have RWD (it's just like making a front engine FWD only on the wrong end of the car), it's that doing so results in a 2-seater. Fantastic for a fun commuter car, but too much of the car market compares the fun commuter with 2 seats to the nearly as fun commuter with 4 seats & trunk space (WRX, Eclipse, EVO, SRT4). Anyone who wants a deuce with no storage is either financially reckless with a very understanding spouse (let's not kid ourselves: wife) or can afford a BMWz-series. And that's just not a huge segment of the population.
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What the Mk1 DOES need is a decent engine. 300hp would be about right.
Does that come with prepaid funeral services?

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Whats with all these new cars using silver rims with black background, it looks awful IMHO ...
You can blame Pep-Boys, Auto-Zone, and O'Reilly for this trend.

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Nice find, if the smaller one is mid engined and looks good I'll buy one, guarantee that!
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