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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old May 14th, 2018, 21:31 Thread Starter
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Just bought a bone stock 1991 Gen2 Turbo



Bought the MR2 Turbo in Santa Clara, CA

Original owner is retiring and decided to part with the car, lived in the bay area all his life, 60+ years is enough, he is moving to Colorado.

Original Odometer has 200,000+ (broke) new Odometer 60k+ and climbing since it's my daily.

Some highlights

Pro
  • 1 Owner
  • Clean Title
  • Stock
  • Original Engine
  • Original Transmission
  • No door dings!
  • Power Steering
  • Power Windows
  • A/C blows very cold
  • Garage kept

Car still running on original shocks and springs
Just did transmission flush (redline) and oil change

Cons:
  • Clear coat peeling
  • Shocks and springs will need to be replaced
  • Owner did say small leak due to T Top (New weather guards?)
  • Idle 1100 then drops down to 800 or so every 30 seconds (owner doesn't know, so he just lived with it)
  • Owner didn't do a tune up for years
  • Parked in garage hasn't moved much
  • Leather seats falling apart/ripped
  • Creeks and sounds like something is rubbing all the time (possible just old leather moldings, wear and tear or suspension)
Any comments and suggestions to return this car back to its glory are welcomed.

Anyone know any auto shops that have knowledge on MR2's? or Enthusiast?

Thanks!

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Congratulations!!! Great pick up, some maintenance and TLC and you will enjoy this car for a long time to come. If you are in Cali, there are plenty of MR2 specific shops you can go to for anything from basic maintenance to full blown swaps and or builds. You can find some of those shops on here if you just do a search.

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Looks good, congrats on the purchase. Taking care of those shocks should be first on your performance list after smoothing out that engine. It will be night & day with new suspension. Any springs are fine, but stick w/ Koni shocks if you can afford them. And don't forget to replace your strut mounts; after a quarter century, it's time.

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...Clear coat peeling...
Crimson Red cars shipped from the factory with stage 1 paint; only the pearls & metallics had clear coats. The clear coat in solids is integrated with the paint - there is no external clear coat to peel. That means your new DD is a respray sometime during its lifespan. I would try to dig up its accident history just for curiosity sake.
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Looks good, congrats on the purchase. Taking care of those shocks should be first on your performance list after smoothing out that engine. It will be night & day with new suspension. Any springs are fine, but stick w/ Koni shocks if you can afford them. And don't forget to replace your strut mounts; after a quarter century, it's time.



Crimson Red cars shipped from the factory with stage 1 paint; only the pearls & metallics had clear coats. The clear coat in solids is integrated with the paint - there is no external clear coat to peel. That means your new DD is a respray sometime during its lifespan. I would try to dig up its accident history just for curiosity sake.
Thank you for the comments and suggestions! I'll hop right on it.

Hmm... respray? yikes. I'll take a few pictures for close up tomorrow.

Thanks!
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I own a '93 turbo. The RPM at idle kicks up to 1100 when the air conditioner compressor clicks on and goes back to 800 when it clicks off. The RPM also increases slightly when you turn on the headlights. So may be normal
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I own a '93 turbo. The RPM at idle kicks up to 1100 when the air conditioner compressor clicks on and goes back to 800 when it clicks off. The RPM also increases slightly when you turn on the headlights. So may be normal
Thanks for chiming in! I'll continue to monitor it, probably stop by a shop to have them check for vacuum leaks in the future.

I also still need to get this car smogged.

here are the pics of the paint and close up of all the exterior rubber. Are the rubber pieces easy to replace? affordable? They are very hard and brittle.


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Very common for the window trim pieces to be faded and more common for them to be peeling off. If you want you could spray yours with plastidip, they look much better. New ones are a little over $100 each.
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.. Are the rubber pieces easy to replace? affordable? They are very hard and brittle...
The hard part is finding any that are better than what you have. Body trim pieces are rapidly becoming unavailable from Toyota. If you plan on keeping the car, you might want to get as many restoration pieces that you can while you can. Any used plastic or rubber parts that you can find are probably worse than what you have.
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I found that restoring black window trim with raptor truck bed liner works really well on bringing these pieces back to like new finish.
No need to sweat it on stressing looking for new trim, complete waste of funds buying new from dealer
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I've noticed an exponential drop in SW20 body parts available from Toyota in the last year.

Both ideas above are good; you can also try using "Back to Black" on less worn components. This is the type of damage caused by not garaging the car.

As for the clear-coat, definitely a re-spray. Not sure if it's your camera or the lighting conditions, but that red color looks almost like the '94+ Super Red rather than the more subtle Crimson Red that shipped with the car. So it's possible the whole car was re-painted rather than just a clear-coat tossed on top of the existing OEM color.
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Very common for the window trim pieces to be faded and more common for them to be peeling off. If you want you could spray yours with plastidip, they look much better. New ones are a little over $100 each.
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The hard part is finding any that are better than what you have. Body trim pieces are rapidly becoming unavailable from Toyota. If you plan on keeping the car, you might want to get as many restoration pieces that you can while you can. Any used plastic or rubber parts that you can find are probably worse than what you have.
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I found that restoring black window trim with raptor truck bed liner works really well on bringing these pieces back to like new finish.
No need to sweat it on stressing looking for new trim, complete waste of funds buying new from dealer
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I've noticed an exponential drop in SW20 body parts available from Toyota in the last year.
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Both ideas above are good; you can also try using "Back to Black" on less worn components. This is the type of damage caused by not garaging the car.
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As for the clear-coat, definitely a re-spray. Not sure if it's your camera or the lighting conditions, but that red color looks almost like the '94+ Super Red rather than the more subtle Crimson Red that shipped with the car. So it's possible the whole car was re-painted rather than just a clear-coat tossed on top of the existing OEM color.
Thanks for the great feedback and comments guys! All appreciated. I plan to keep this car forever. Was hard hunting one down that was not a project car from some kid that ran out of money or something. (Dozens of those all across USA)

I'll buy Back to Black tomorrow for sure! I heard great results of those.

For the paint, i'm afraid you're right. An exterior respray might have to be done in the future. I'll ask for color matching from the paint code on the car. Very shortly I'm going to replace all the bushings with prothane urethane and replace the sway bar endlinks. Then get a new suspension.

The laundry list grows!
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It sure was a great find. A little bit at a time and she'll look almost new.
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Curious what you got it for. PM me if you'd rather not say here... car prices have gone through the roof, even low mileage MR2 turbos.

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Curious what you got it for. PM me if you'd rather not say here... car prices have gone through the roof, even low mileage MR2 turbos.


Yup! i know! PM'ed you about the pricing and that is correct people are flocking to these cars now.
Same goes for all the 90's and sub early 2k cars.

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A lot of youtube content creators are buying cars, modding, and selling to increase hit count/views on their channels. kids see that so they are copying. Lots of money to be made!
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It's been a year and I have done a lot to it.

Made the car my own.

LOTS of saving up cash, selling pointless stuff I no longer use and put it toward the MR2.

  • Restored Interior, parts from japan and other sources. Mint Condition
  • Changed out the double din to a Kenwood, ran new wires and replaced the stock amp. I had to buy the wiring harness from EU since this car had Premium Sound.
  • Got a 98 wing with risers, not sure if I want to put it on yet, it's currently being painted.



  • OLD






  • NEW



  • Changing out all the stock speakers to Kenwood 6.5", they were torn.





  • Test fitting the sub, then dremel it to fit and plug and play. HITS HARD!



  • Got new wheels, RFP1's staggered and got 94 tail lights.

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  • Installed Berk Exhaust and then the Booty Shot before it goes into paint.



Getting it professionally painted, currently stripping the car apart.

Sanding all down to bare metal.

Will attend car shows, aka wekfest, stance nation, etc when completed.


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Now the list of things I have done to Exterior and Under the car, it's a growing list. Just bought all kinds of new engine stuff for maintenance.

- Installed New Front and Rear control arms from MR2Heaven
- Installed New Suspension Techniques Sway Bars MR2Heaven
- Installed New Swaybar Endlinks from MR2Heaven
- Installed New Coilovers from MR2Heaven
- Installed Urethane Suspension Bushing Kit from MR2Heaven
- Installed Tune-Up Kit from PrimeDriven
- Installed Aeroware Front Lip from MR2Heaven
- Installed Greddy Side Skirts from MR2Heaven
- Installed 94+ Tailights From MR2Heaven
- Installed Short Level Stock OEM 93+ from PrimeDriven
- Installed Short level seat cup from PrimeDriven
- Installed new leather OEM JDM 1998 shift knob with red stitching from PrimeDriven
- Installed runabout shifter surround trim with red stitching from PrimeDriven
- Installed Berk Dual 3" Exhaust from MR2Heaven
- Installed Berk High Flow Cat Pipe from MR2Heaven
- Brake System Flush
- Oil Change
- Bought new T-top seals
- New Window Seals

For now...
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Where is the subwoofer? Is there a place for them or did you make a custom spot for it?
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Where is the subwoofer? Is there a place for them or did you make a custom spot for it?
From the picture it looks like he modified the stock sub box (behind the driver's seat) to fit a Tang Band. When I did mine I cut the Tang Band to fit in the stock sub enclosure. Different approaches to solve the same problem.
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From the picture it looks like he modified the stock sub box (behind the driver's seat) to fit a Tang Band. When I did mine I cut the Tang Band to fit in the stock sub enclosure. Different approaches to solve the same problem.
Darn... the previous owner must have removed mine... theres nothing behind my drivers seat its just an empty cavity under that shelf/ storage area.
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