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post #21 of 48 (permalink) Old December 9th, 2016, 13:39
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The pro kit should work for you. I drove my set up on road trips 100+ miles and have no complaints about them. I have my bump stops cut and only am using 3/4 inch of it. Don't get me wrong when I say its not competitive, it is with cars that have the same suspension modifications. It is still fun, its just limited and that was the trade of I made when I choose to go with a lowering spring setup.
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post #22 of 48 (permalink) Old December 10th, 2016, 05:08 Thread Starter
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93+ springs drop the car about 1/2" from 91-92 springs. The Pro-Kits I think are about 1" lower than 91-92 springs. Even if you can't find a used set of 93+ springs, you can buy new ones from a discount Toyota dealer for ~$250 a set.
The car I am looking at is a '93 so that isn't an issue. Thinking I might want a slight drop so Eibachs might be the way to go.
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The pro kit should work for you. I drove my set up on road trips 100+ miles and have no complaints about them. I have my bump stops cut and only am using 3/4 inch of it. Don't get me wrong when I say its not competitive, it is with cars that have the same suspension modifications. It is still fun, its just limited and that was the trade of I made when I choose to go with a lowering spring setup.
I like how your car sits, height wise. Like the wheels too. What kind/size? One thing I don't like about the '93, nothing against your car bc the one I'm thinking about is a '93, is the rear spoiler. I like the '95 spoiler so much more. Might have to change it out.
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On my 91T body I'm using BC coilovers, with new poly bushings all around. Height set a bit under stock height (after 17" wheels). Damping is fine and handling is predictable enough. Greatly reduced the rear squat/front lift under hard accel, which was a problem with the 1MZFE turbo. Comfortable enough too (good seats help there).
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Will most likely go either stock spring and adjustable Konis or Eibach and adjustable Konis. Urethane bushings too if needed. Getting excited and haven't even talked to Momma about it yet...lol. Guess I should.
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...Urethane bushings too if needed...
Those definitely transmit a bit more harshness to the ride, you may not notice it but the wife may.
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Those definitely transmit a bit more harshness to the ride, you may not notice it but the wife may.
Does anyone make a non urethane bushing kit? In my MK1 I used TRD bushings and strut mounts. rubber but stiffer than stock.
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Part of the reason the urethane kit is popular is because they're easy to install, relatively inexpensive and always around.

I'm pretty sure the OEM rubber bushings are still obtainable, but the complete TRD bushing kit for both the '91 and '93 setup haven't been available new for many years.
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I'm honestly a bit surprised someone hasn't gone through and made bushing kits as a small business venture with softer (Shore ~60A perhaps - close to rubber) poly.
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Bilsteins are another option and are bulletproof as well. Over 100k on my set now.
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Agreed, I think the German made Bilsteins are overall a tad better than the Konis (though the Bilsteins ride firmer) - definitely a damper to respect.

But given they're about the same cost, I'm willing to give up the Bilstein's minor superiority for a truly useful feature: infinite adjutability on the Konis, from softer than stock to much stiffer than the Bilsteins w/ a few twists.
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I've got Bilsteins on my '07 Xterra. Great shocks. I'd prefer adjustability though. I don't want to get into a suspension that is really to stiff for commuting to work and going places with the wife like in my MK1. I want this to a more comfortable ride than my mK1
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Agreed, I think the German made Bilsteins are overall a tad better than the Konis (though the Bilsteins ride firmer) - definitely a damper to respect.

But given they're about the same cost, I'm willing to give up the Bilstein's minor superiority for a truly useful feature: infinite adjutability on the Konis, from softer than stock to much stiffer than the Bilsteins w/ a few twists.
This is kind of a misnomer. They are only adjustable for rebound not fully adjustable. Too each his own I know 95% of folks on here run them but there does seem to be a lot of complaints with folks that have milage on them of them leaking and needing to be rebuild. I just realized I am in the v6 section (which I don't even own) so take my advice with a grain of salt as other v6 owners would have a much better real world experience.
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They are only adjustable for rebound not fully adjustable.
True, but rebound adjustment is where probably 80% of your handling tuning AND ride comfort adjustment comes from. Compression adjustment is certainly nice, but overkill for most people. Rebound only is certainly preferable to having compression and rebound linked on one knob.


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...I know 95% of folks on here run them but there does seem to be a lot of complaints with folks that have milage on them of them leaking and needing to be rebuild...
That's probably very optimistic. I don't know what the percentage is, but if car meets are any indication, it's probably closer to 25% - with the biggest complaint being they're too pricey for the average owner. There are a whole load of Tokicos and (unfortunately) Monroe shocks mounted on MR2s out there.

I've owned Konis on 4 MR2s over 15 years, never had any issues. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. Usually when they're defective, it's right away - like out of the box. But they have a very good support warranty - I believe it's lifetime.
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That's probably very optimistic. I don't know what the percentage is, but if car meets are any indication, it's probably closer to 25% - with the biggest complaint being they're too pricey for the average owner. There are a whole load of Tokicos and (unfortunately) Monroe shocks mounted on MR2s out there.

I've owned Konis on 4 MR2s over 15 years, never had any issues. Maybe I'm one of the lucky ones. Usually when they're defective, it's right away - like out of the box. But they have a very good support warranty - I believe it's lifetime.
Yeah I can see that being the norm much more now ( I haven't really been active on here for some time now). I know the MKI guys used a lot of the tokicos for a cheap alternative years ago with very high number of failures. (As a side not I remember looking at some brake calipers on a motorcycle and seeing tokico stamped on them and cringed at the thought of them making brakes lol). To the OP Billstein's are stiff my GF/FiancÚ/Wife complains about them every time she rides in my car lol.
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I'm the OP, I'll most likely go Koni.

I had Tokico blues on my MK1. went through 2 sets actually. The were less expensive than pretty much any other "performance" strut. 1st set I got about 90,000 miles out of. The 2nd set had between 20-30k on them when I sold the car with 0 problems. Never owned Tokico Illuminas
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I drive on TRD springs with Konis. The ride comfort is pure, unadulterated garbage. I have driven another fully stock '93 back to back with my own car and... there's absolutely no comparison.

205/50/15 or staggered 215/40/17 & 255/40/17... Not much difference. These springs & struts are definitely for fun driving only.
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I drive on TRD springs with Konis. The ride comfort is pure, unadulterated garbage...
I think there are various factors to consider when broad statements like that are made:

  • It's difficult to compare apples & oranges (that is, a lowered suspension to stock).
  • Taking an inch off of suspension travel, especially on McPherson strut setups, can have big positive & negative perceived results
  • Tire compound, sidewall height/stiffness, stock vs urethane bushings & weight of wheels all contribute large influences to perceptions of ride comfort
  • Those factors above are compounded when put together at the same time (especially comparing immediately after a cushy stock setup)
  • One person's smooth is another person's garbage (which is why drivers should take advantage of meets and drive other MR2s for comparison)
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I drive on TRD springs with Konis. The ride comfort is pure, unadulterated garbage. I have driven another fully stock '93 back to back with my own car and... there's absolutely no comparison.

205/50/15 or staggered 215/40/17 & 255/40/17... Not much difference. These springs & struts are definitely for fun driving only.
Out of curiosity, are your bump stops cut? The TRD springs lower probably 1.5", and with stock length bump stops you aren't going to have much travel before hitting the bump stops.

Another thought, your struts are set all the way soft right?


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