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How to set up and program your TDSE (stock keyless entry)

What is TDSE?
TDSE (Theft Deterrent System Enhancement) is an optional improvement to the stock theft deterrent system. Most notably, it adds keyless entry, but there's also a glass breakage sensor and possibly other features.

How can I find out if I have it?
If you have TDSE, you should have an additional alarm ECU underneath the passenger seat, and probably a 'Horn Defeat' switch near your foglight switch:
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A good way to see if you have it is to go to the dealer and have them print out the list of options your car came with.

Where do I get a remote?
The original remote is a plaiin-looking rectangle with a small white button in the corner. Toyota no longer sells this remote (although you can find one on ebay for lots of money). Instead, Toyota's next generation remote is backwards-compatible with the older systems like TDSE. These are quite abundant on ebay and they work with a slew of Toyotas, although the ads never say they're compatible with MR2's. Don't worry, they are. Disclaimer: It worked for me, but your mileage may vary.
  • The remote must have FCC ID: BAB237131-022
  • The color must be black. Grey ones are available with the same FCC ID, but they will not work (from what I hear).
Here's what the remote looks like:


Programming instructions
The alarm ECU is under the passenger seat, so it is very difficult to access unless the seat is taken out. I managed to do it with the seat still in, though. On the side facing the passenger door is the wiring harness, and to the side of it is a tiny hole with the reprogramming button inside. Find this hole and find a tool that you can use to press the button (I used a tiny allen wrench). When ready, follow these instructions:
  1. Turn on the ignition (to the ON position, not ACC)
  2. Press and hold the button on the alarm ECU for about 3 seconds, until the car's horn beeps
  3. Within a few seconds, press the top button of the remote.
  4. The horn should sound again, signifying success.
  5. Turn off the ignition.
  6. Enjoy.

The car's parking lights flash and the horn honks loudly once when arming and twice when disarming. For silence, turn the 'Horn Defeat' switch near the foglights to the off position. Now the horn won't sound when arming/disarming, but the parking lights will still blink.

Disclaimer/Closing Words
Anything you do with your car is your responsibility. I don't guarantee the accuracy or efficacy of these instructions, or guarantee that the remote I mentioned will work for you. This is simply stuff that I have learned from experience, talking to the dealer, and scouring the Internet (on which there is no TDSE info for the MR2). I found this 4runner site quite helpful http://www.4runners.org/articles/rs3000/. Unfortunately, TDSE and whatever the 4runner uses are different and the instructions don't carry over directly.

The previous owner of my 93T had no idea that it had factory keyless entry, so hopefully this will help some of you out. Maybe it's not as rare a feature as they say it is.

Also, if anyone has additional instructions for TDSE (such as enabling passive arming, etc.) or additional specifications, please let me know and I'll add it to this write-up. Hope this helps.
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Great information! This should be made a sticky in the Audio and Security forum.


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Do all cars with the horn defeat button have TDSE?
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Do all cars with the horn defeat button have TDSE?
I'm pretty sure that having a horn defeat button means you have TDSE. I don't see what else the button would be used for.
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I'm pretty sure that having a horn defeat button means you have TDSE. I don't see what else the button would be used for.
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Here's an addition:

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well my '93T still has some factory police tracking vin number gps sticker on it from toyota....so does that mean if it's stolen the police can track it down? or do i have to have it turned on or something?
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Thanks for the scan, Ken.

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well my '93T still has some factory police tracking vin number gps sticker on it from toyota....so does that mean if it's stolen the police can track it down? or do i have to have it turned on or something?
Hmm. Are you sure that's a factory option? Your best bet with something like that would be to go to the dealer with your VIN and have them tell you what options your car came with, and what that tracking sticker means.
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I dont have horn defeat switch, so I probably dont have tdse.

But I do have the factory alarm, but I never had a remote. The previous owner never gave one to me.

Where can I get a replacement?

Dealer will rip me off big time.

I just need a remote because the alarm arms itself sometimes and sometimes it doesnt, then when I open it, it goes off and I have to lock and unlock the doors to deactivate the immobilizer, and its real annoying.

I looked on ebay but I dont know which one I need.

Please help.
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There is no remote, unless you have TDSE. TDSE was the only way to get keyless entry from the factory.
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from the factory.
Actually from the dealer. It was a dealer installed option. Just like air conditioning.

And no, don't bother trying to get one. Marc Summers bought the last remaining TDSE in North America years ago.

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There is no remote, unless you have TDSE. TDSE was the only way to get keyless entry from the factory.
That's rediculous!

My friend has a crappy 94 Celica ST (base, not even the top of the line model GT which still is a crappy car.)

And he has a factory alarm. He went to the dealer and he got a remote to work his alarm, a one button one, but its still works. His car has no leather, power windows, doors, foglights, etc.

My car has almost every option, etc.

I cant believe that Toyota didn't make a remote to work the alarm. I don't even care about keyless entry.


I guess I need an aftermarket alarm then.
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Actually from the dealer. It was a dealer installed option. Just like air conditioning.

And no, don't bother trying to get one. Marc Summers bought the last remaining TDSE in North America years ago.

...karl
LOL-I guess I should have said "with the factory alarm" instead of "from the factory". I know it was a dealer option. It cost over $400 at the time.

It was actually Geoff Seeley that bought the last one. Marc had an aftermarket alarm in his car that he installed himself, and it had keyless and a pager.

The 91-92 TDSE is not cross compatible with the 93-95 TDSE.Geoff got the last 91-92 TDSE in North America. A father and son in the SE; Bob and Kevin Crewes got the last 93+ unit. They built the car up together, and it was featured in a magazine. They later sold the car. I bought my TDSE remote from them, as they had a new in box spare one, and my previous owner didn't have the remote, and wasn't even aware that the car had keyless entry installed.

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Ok, since the alarm has no remotes, how do we control it exactly?

I know its from locking and unlocking the doors...


but mine is weird. Sometimes after a long drive, I'll slam the door and the alarm will arm, but then at other times it wont.
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Not completely sure about this, but some factory alarms without remotes are set up so they only arm when all of the doors in the car are locked and shut. You might want to play around to see if this is the case.
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Both the normal alarm and TDSE can be armed by locking one of the doors with the key, and disarmed by unlocking one of the doors with the key. TDSE adds a remote control that will lock/arm and unlock/disarm your car without the key.
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There is no remote, unless you have TDSE. TDSE was the only way to get keyless entry from the factory.
Both right and wrong

There sure is mr2s with just keyless (I have it myself) but on the other hand its not a usdm mr2 (its a jdm -95) and i believe you are talking about usdm mr2s

I have one problem though that i noticed yesterday when i first tried it after merging the stock usdm 91 alarm together with the keyless from my wrecked 95jdm.. with the key everything works as it should, locks/unlocks and arm/disarms the alarm...... but when using the keyless it locks the doors but then 2 seconds later it unlocks again...... anyone have any idea what might be wrong??
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When you trigger the alarm (panic mode) with the remote do the headlights pop up?

Can you have multiple remotes setup to work with the same car?

I had a " fun " day yesterday when it comes to the alarm and TDSE...
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Both right and wrong

There sure is mr2s with just keyless (I have it myself) but on the other hand its not a usdm mr2 (its a jdm -95) and i believe you are talking about usdm mr2s
i was going to say the same thing... my 94 gt-s has keyless entry, but does not have that horn defeat switch.... i guess it was just a j-spec thing....
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I finally got a TDSE and installation looks relatively simple, except for 2 wires. There is a light green and a black/yellow wire that are dead ended in the harness that goes to the dash for the horn defeat switch. What are these for? The rest is plug and play.

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