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post #61 of 83 (permalink) Old September 2nd, 2007, 20:55
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I see a TDSE operation manual posted but do any of you have a installation manual? I'm adapting a later TVIP RS3200 system to the stock '93 alarm just so i can have the keyless feature.. but not the alarm .
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I've never seen an installation manual - I think you just have to look at the wiring diagrams & comments that other people have posted.
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If you have a TDSE, you shouldn't have a different FCC code as far as I know. Are you sure your fob isn't for an aftermarket system?

Sorry to bring this question back from the dead, I decided to just ignore all my security stuff in my car a while back. After having worked on the car so much recently, I am back to refreshing my 94'T and reviving parts that are worn out. Anyways, My system has these things I have found in the car:

Regarding my key Fob, its a factory Toyota one, but doesn't seem to work even if I replaced the battery. I even lightly sanded the contacts to try and make it work, but no luck.

- horn beneath the cruise control that goes off when I open the trunk with my key.
-horn defeat switch beside the foglight switch, but never seems to work.
-control module under the seat.
-2 very thin wires hanging around the control module, red and white. They are some kind of signal wires that are hanging loose.

Right now, the alarm system doesn't really work because I don't have a replacement key fob yet, and i removed the control module, because sometimes the alarm acts very weird.
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Sorry to bring this question back from the dead, I decided to just ignore all my security stuff in my car a while back. After having worked on the car so much recently, I am back to refreshing my 94'T and reviving parts that are worn out. Anyways, My system has these things I have found in the car:

Regarding my key Fob, its a factory Toyota one, but doesn't seem to work even if I replaced the battery. I even lightly sanded the contacts to try and make it work, but no luck.

- horn beneath the cruise control that goes off when I open the trunk with my key.
-horn defeat switch beside the foglight switch, but never seems to work.
-control module under the seat.
-2 very thin wires hanging around the control module, red and white. They are some kind of signal wires that are hanging loose.

Right now, the alarm system doesn't really work because I don't have a replacement key fob yet, and i removed the control module, because sometimes the alarm acts very weird.
1. You cannot open the trunk without first disarming the system. Kind of silly, I know, but that's how it operates.
2. The horn defeat switch is for arming the car, not turning off the horn entirely. If your keyfob worked the horn defeat would simply keep the horn from honking to let you know you armed or disarmed the alarm.

I'm not sure about the red and white wires.

If you simply want the TDS system, you can disconnect the secondary ECU under the seat at the main ECU located behind the panel that the seatbelt is housed. If you decide to go this route, let me know and I'll buy the TDSE components off of you.
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under my dash is a "alpine mobile security" unit, is this the factory? it doesn't appear to work in any way.
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under my dash is a "alpine mobile security" unit, is this the factory? it doesn't appear to work in any way.
Not factory.

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Hey, I am wondering what the glass sensor looks like? I bought what I thought was a complete tdse system but I don't see any sensor.
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the sensor is built into the horn defeat switch
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the sensor is built into the horn defeat switch
ooo ok that makes sense..I didn't think it was that small.
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Is there anyway to disable the stock tds? i believe the box for it is messed up, the previous owner has the fuse for the dome light pulled, that is the same circuit that is it on. When i put the fuse back in it sets the alarm off. i tried to lock the door with they key as soon as it went off, but with no avail.
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The TDS ECU is behind the passenger side rear panel (under the quarter window). Pull the plug out of it and that should kill it.

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I tried to do that, but then it cuts the starter.
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Just for anyone trying to install the tdse system into a car that doesn't have it stock, the black/yellow wire splices in the harness that goes to an orange box behind the air vent tube under the steering column. I made the mistake of splicing mine into a black/yellow wire that comes off the fuse box (which was for the fog lights/running light) instead and I couldn't figure out why it wouldn't work lol The light green wire does splice into the light green wire coming from the fuse box though for the lighting part of the system. I hope this helps clarify some of the problems that people might run into.
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What is TDSE?
  1. Turn on the ignition (to the ON position, not ACC)
  2. Press and hold the button on the alarm ECU for about 3 seconds, until the car's horn beeps
  3. Within a few seconds, press the top button of the remote.
  4. The horn should sound again, signifying success.
  5. Turn off the ignition.
  6. Enjoy.
I'm a bit confused. The instructions say to have the car in ACC, not ON, but these instructions also say the horn will beep as the other instructions say the light will turn on.



I followed the instructions I had first, not thinking they were any different, but in ACC mine honked, but then wouldn't recognize the fob, which is the original Toyota one.

I don't really need the keyless part to work since I have the other JDM keyless in place, and the glass breakage sensor works just fine, but I was just messing around with the TDSE keyfob to get it to work and no dice. Would it really just be an issue of following the procedure in the ON position?

Yes, I'll actually just try it later, but wondered if anyone else came across this before.
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So...two years later, just to have one, I bought one of the later keyfobs talked about in this thread and went through the procedure again and worked like a charm the first time! So yeah, I guess the old original single button Toyota fob I had was busted or something.

I had forgotten just how loud the horn is when it beeps to lock and unlock. Glad that horn defeat switch is there! haha...


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I've been looking into if I am able to hook up the factory TDS to function with a non TDS installed MK2. It seems like it will be a pain as it's all wired into the body harness(?).

I've been looking for the TDSE option for a while, but it seems that the owners aren't getting rid of them or they're damaged from TTop leaks.

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Does anyone know if there is a way to shorten the length of time the horn beeps when locking/unlocking the car via the fob? I would like to have the audio confirmation that the car is locked or unlocked, but the default setting is a little long for my tastes.
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Probably not. They're radio frequencies so there will usually be a delay between transmissions.

Even my python 991 2 way does this.

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just like to throw an update in here... for a newer style remote the fcc number is BAB237131-056 supposedly this replace the other fcc number in the first post
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can anyone verify what aftermarket remote fobs are compatible with 93 TDSE? All pics and links are dead since this thread is so old

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