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The factory TDS has no shock or motion sensor. If kicking your tire made the alarm go off, I'd say that you have either the TDSE or an aftermarket alarm installed and don't know it.

The factory TDS is just what it's billed as - a Theft Deterrant System. It goes off when the door is opened with anything but the key. It kills the starter and fuel pump, which makes driving the car away pretty difficult.

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The factory TDS has no shock or motion sensor. If kicking your tire made the alarm go off, I'd say that you have either the TDSE or an aftermarket alarm installed and don't know it.

The factory TDS is just what it's billed as - a Theft Deterrant System. It goes off when the door is opened with anything but the key. It kills the starter and fuel pump, which makes driving the car away pretty difficult.
that sounds just about right as well. i have always had the factory alarm which requires the key according to the first owner. but if there is no shock sensor, its just wierd how it went blaring when i kicked my tires. when i first set off my alarm by accident, i pulled the lock from the inside when the alarm activated. it went off and i had a difficult time strating the car afterwards. hmmmm i believe i have the factory, but what sensors do i have?
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that sounds just about right as well. i have always had the factory alarm which requires the key according to the first owner. but if there is no shock sensor, its just wierd how it went blaring when i kicked my tires. when i first set off my alarm by accident, i pulled the lock from the inside when the alarm activated. it went off and i had a difficult time strating the car afterwards. hmmmm i believe i have the factory, but what sensors do i have?
When you kicked the tire and the alarm went off, where was the honking coming from? If the horn in the engine bay wasn't going off, then it's not the stock alarm, and you probably have some aftermarket one snaked up under the dash somewhere.
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When you kicked the tire and the alarm went off, where was the honking coming from? If the horn in the engine bay wasn't going off, then it's not the stock alarm, and you probably have some aftermarket one snaked up under the dash somewhere.
it was the stock horns going on. it was loud and it startled me...so i didnt really pay much attention to what part of the car it was coming from. my headlights went crazy too! was the headlight thing normal?
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it was the stock horns going on. it was loud and it startled me...so i didnt really pay much attention to what part of the car it was coming from. my headlights went crazy too! was the headlight thing normal?
With the stock TDS system, when the alarm goes off, the headlights should come up and flash along with the rest of the lights. The fact that the front horns went off doesn't tell me too much since they should be going off too. The question is if the engine bay horn went off (stock horn that's sort of under the cruise control stuff on the passenger rear side of the engine compartment).
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Does anyone have the key fob programming instructions for the ?95 turbo TVSS system?


Thanks for your help,
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Does anyone have the key fob programming instructions for the ?95 turbo TVSS system?


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Are you certain it's a TVSS? I'm pretty sure Toyota maintained only the TDS and TDSE for the MR2 sold in the US. Maybe if it's a really late 95 it snuck in with TVSS, but your's would be the first I've heard of with it.
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nbvolks -
I will need to get more information, I do not have the car yet I will be picking it up at the end of the month.

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Ok, a little more checking and it turns out it has the TDS system. Here is a list of what options the car came with if it helps:
  • AB ? anti-lock brake system (ABS)
  • DC ? Premium 3-in-1 ETR/CASS/CD W/8
  • LA ? Leather Trim package
  • LD ? Limited-Slip Differential
  • PN ? Toyota Theft Deterrent System
  • PS ? Power Assisted Electro-hydraulic Steering
  • RE ? 48 State Emissions

So with this information can anyone tell me if the car would have had keyless entry? Or is the Toyota Theft Deterrent System (TDS) a passive system?

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It sounds like that's the standard theft deterrent system, which, AFAIK, pretty much every MR2 came with (I'm sure someone will correct me on that ). You'll only have keyless entry if it has the TDSE. Ask the person who has the car currently if it has a switch on the dash marked 'horn defeat' - if it does, that's a good sign that you've got the upgraded TDSE. If not, I'd say you've just got the base alarm.
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Thanks for the info will do. I am getting very excited about finally having another MR-2 and a turbo to boot, I will be picking it up on the 28th.
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TDS was an option...I've seen quite a few cars without it. It's a purely passive system that arms when you remove the key from the ignition and lock the door.

As Dirk said, you need the TDSE for keyless entry.

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Ok, what if my remote (that's broken, and I already replaced the battery), has a different FCC code BABEUC-1052 instead of the one posted at the beginning of this thread. Will I still be able to use the the other FCC code, or do I have to use this specific one? I have a 94' Turbo.
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The FCC code dictates the frequency on which the remote operates and communicates with the TDSE unit. If you don't have the right FCC code, it isn't going to work.

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The FCC code dictates the frequency on which the remote operates and communicates with the TDSE unit. If you don't have the right FCC code, it isn't going to work.
The reason I'm asking this is because the beginning of this post is that someone with a factory alarm system with an mr2 can buy FCC ID#: BAB237131-022

Now, my car has exactly the same parts that daspek was showing. I was going to order BAB237131-022, but then, I checked my remote and noticed mine says BABEUC-1052.

Basically, David, you're saying I need to find a remote with FCC ID: BABEUC-1052??? and the BAB237131-022 is probably or definitely not going to work with my factory security system?

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The reason I'm asking this is because the beginning of this post is that someone with a factory alarm system with an mr2 can buy FCC ID#: BAB237131-022

Now, my car has exactly the same parts that daspek was showing. I was going to order BAB237131-022, but then, I checked my remote and noticed mine says BABEUC-1052.

Basically, David, you're saying I need to find a remote with FCC ID: BABEUC-1052??? and the BAB237131-022 is probably or definitely not going to work with my factory security system?

Thanks.
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If you have a TDSE, you shouldn't have a different FCC code as far as I know. Are you sure your fob isn't for an aftermarket system?

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Ok, since the alarm has no remotes, how do we control it exactly?

I know its from locking and unlocking the doors...


but mine is weird. Sometimes after a long drive, I'll slam the door and the alarm will arm, but then at other times it wont.
Probably not relevant because this thread is pretty old, but I have a 91 N/A with the factory alarm. The way that you arm it (or at least this is how I was told to do it) is:

1) when you get out of the car lock the driver side door by hand and shut the doors

2) go to the passenger side, insert your key, lock the door (which I believe is turning counter clockwise)

your red LED in the instrument light should go solid for about 20-30 seconds and then it will blink normally. To disarm, just put in and turn your key in the passenger side and bam, you can get in.

I dunno I could be wrong, but my alarm is loud as balls and the headlights go up and down.
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Probably not relevant because this thread is pretty old, but I have a 91 N/A with the factory alarm. The way that you arm it (or at least this is how I was told to do it) is:

1) when you get out of the car lock the driver side door by hand and shut the doors

2) go to the passenger side, insert your key, lock the door (which I believe is turning counter clockwise)

your red LED in the instrument light should go solid for about 20-30 seconds and then it will blink normally. To disarm, just put in and turn your key in the passenger side and bam, you can get in.

I dunno I could be wrong, but my alarm is loud as balls and the headlights go up and down.
You don't need to do the passenger side part.

If you're having to do that, then there's something wrong with your driver's side door harness.

To arm it all you need to do is lock the door from the inside OR lock the door by the key in either door. The light then comes on solid for 30 seconds, allowing you to open the trunk, etc. After 30 seconds, it arms and the light begins blinking. To disarm, unlock either door with the key.
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oh ok. I haven't had a chance to mess with it because its currently be worked on by a friend (the car in general) but yeah...I'll have to check that out.
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